sblitz Posted March 14, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 14, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) FWIW -- Rumor: the next Leica M camera will have a black and white sensor | Leica News & Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 14, 2012 Posted March 14, 2012 Hi sblitz, Take a look here B&W sensor only?-- Merged--. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Leicanier Posted March 14, 2012 Share #2 Posted March 14, 2012 Rumor: the next Leica M camera will have a black and white sensor | Leica News & Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 14, 2012 Share #3 Posted March 14, 2012 Black & White? As the 'sensor' is not a Kodak one, clearly it must be an Ilford one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 14, 2012 Share #4 Posted March 14, 2012 like let's get back to reality!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 14, 2012 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2012 Well, that's a little crazy. No Bayer filter. Sharper? Greater resolution (4x18?) I wonder if it has an IR sensor cover. Will one use conventional B&W contrast filters with it? Or is it just another WAG rumor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted March 14, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 14, 2012 I think it's feasible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted March 14, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) And to develop the pictures one has to shake the camera in given intervals depending on ISO Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted March 14, 2012 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2012 Without the RGB color Bayer filters over the sensor I imagine the camera would have a higher usuable ISO. Any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 14, 2012 XD Let's get rid of every advantage of digital capture while simultaneously avoiding the fact that the M9's LCD is subpar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 14, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 14, 2012 Me, I'm a color guy. Especially with digital. I do some B&W conversion, but I'm not about to work with a B&W-only camera. But a monochrome sensor does offer the advantage of no color filters (which do reduce the available light, as dave_d mentions, by close to two stops). And for Leica, it does away with the headache of "red edge" and "cyan drift" and such. Uncoded or especially troublesome wide-angles like the 21mm Super-Angulons or some of the C/V wides would gain a new lease on life, for those who do only do B&W. It would indeed also require less IR filtering (but not zero - see LL review below), but would still need some kind of protective glass cover over the silicon. Kodak made monochrome versions of a couple of their SLRs over the past two decades, including their very first DCS-100. Kodak DCS 100 Kodak 760m Review They were niche products and still didn't sell very well. But Leica's "niche" is niches. A "special edition" by which they can suck an extra $5000 out of buyers is right up their alley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 14, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 14, 2012 It will be right up there with the Foveon sensor SD-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-St Posted March 14, 2012 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2012 Me, I'm a color guy. Especially with digital. I do some B&W conversion, but I'm not about to work with a B&W-only camera. But a monochrome sensor does offer the advantage of no color filters (which do reduce the available light, as dave_d mentions, by close to two stops). And for Leica, it does away with the headache of "red edge" and "cyan drift" and such. Uncoded or especially troublesome wide-angles like the 21mm Super-Angulons or some of the C/V wides would gain a new lease on life, for those who do only do B&W. It would indeed also require less IR filtering (but not zero - see LL review below), but would still need some kind of protective glass cover over the silicon. Kodak made monochrome versions of a couple of their SLRs over the past two decades, including their very first DCS-100. Kodak DCS 100 Kodak 760m Review They were niche products and still didn't sell very well. But Leica's "niche" is niches. A "special edition" by which they can suck an extra $5000 out of buyers is right up their alley. I can see all that. Plus getting rid of that pesky protruding LCD that needs sapphire armouring would make some sense. And probably more Leica-shots end up b&w than Canonikons and such. So maybe. There's a niche there, esp as a second camera for M9-owners Maybe not my niche, but if I think about it long enough, maybe, just maybe... oh heck. Hard not to want it. Maybe best it doesn't happen... Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 15, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 15, 2012 This is what Leica Rumors has just put up on their site. Apparently May 12th is the date according to this Rumor site. Why would you want an expensive camera that cannot take color photographs? Let's hear it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 15, 2012 Share #14 Posted March 15, 2012 This is what Leica Rumors has just put up on their site. Apparently May 12th is the date according to this Rumor site. Why would you want an expensive camera that cannot take color photographs? Let's hear it. I wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurometallo Posted March 15, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 15, 2012 Yes. Most definetely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbaddley Posted March 15, 2012 Share #16 Posted March 15, 2012 I did. In fact, I bought two, the M6 and MP. I like the M9 best for color, but I still prefer film for black & white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib M Posted March 15, 2012 Share #17 Posted March 15, 2012 It sounds really interesting and I would just be interested in such a version of M10, but is included in the div. threads to see if it is a real bid for an upgrade, or it is a good "1 april joke" Ib M - Ipad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Morte Posted March 15, 2012 Share #18 Posted March 15, 2012 If they weren't as expensive as the M9, yes. But if the price is the same, NO! With the price as it is I still want the best with the most futures possible. Streamlight Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted March 15, 2012 Share #19 Posted March 15, 2012 if this rumor is true- I would expect it will be a limited edition camera and stupidly expensive. I wouldn't buy it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 15, 2012 Share #20 Posted March 15, 2012 Yes. Most definetely. +1 … without thinking twice … or long, that is My M8.2 is currently a B&W only M. My M9 is probably a 99% B&W M, While my film M cameras are all B&W only. In fact, the little film, I find myself buying in color languishes in the fridge, reaching expiration, while I can't re stock on B&W as fast, as I shoot. A B&W only digital M, that meters and shoots to ISO6400, as the film M's before it used to do is a no brainer and instant buy for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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