jaapv Posted March 11, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I downloaded the beta on CS5. It defaults to process version 2010 , despite setting to 2012 and saving the default. When I switch to process version 2012 and return to the image controls, half of them, like exposure, recovery, contrast etc. have disappeared and are replaced by a message that I need to switch to process version 2010 to edit the file. All lens profiles are picked up in process version 2010 however. I'm running on Snow Leopard. Does anybody else experience this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01af Posted March 11, 2012 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2012 It defaults to process version 2010, despite setting to 2012 and saving the default. You cannot set PV2012 as the default in ACR 6.7. Same here on Windows. Even though it's only ACR 6, it does provide some forward compatibility to Lr 4 and ACR 7 as a bonus. This way, you can use ACR 6.7 to feed pictures into CS5 that have been processed in Lr 4 using PV2012. But ACR 6.7 is not supposed to process pictures using PV2012 on its own. So it's not strange; it's working as designed. It was the same with ACR 5.7 for CS4 two years ago, don't you remember? It provided limited forward compatibility to PV2010 and new features introduced with Lr 3 and ACR 6 in a similar way as ACR 6.7 does today. By the way, you can use ACR 6.7 to edit pictures using PV2012 and all new controls. However it's very awkward and tedious to do. Lock your image file so it's read-only, load it into ACR 6.7, switch to PV2012, then export the metadata to an XMP sidecar file. Open the sidecar using a regular text editor, find the 2012 settings, and edit them. Then reload the picture to see a preview of the new settings. Repeat until done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted March 11, 2012 Not a fault but a feature? Hmmm. A nice way of selling CS 6 upgrades I guess.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 11, 2012 Share #4 Posted March 11, 2012 As I understand it some of the features in the new version are done in the background, such as Recovery. The theory being that it is now so good it doesn't need a direct user adjustment. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 11, 2012 Share #5 Posted March 11, 2012 Is it correct to conclude that if I upgrade to LR4 I really need to also upgrade to PSCS6 to get full comptablity between ACR an LR4? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 11, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2012 Is it correct to conclude that if I upgrade to Lr 4 I really need to also upgrade to Ps CS6 to get full comptablity between ACR and Lr 4? No, it is not. If you upgrade from Lr 3 to Lr 4, all you have to do to get full compatibility between Lightroom and Photoshop will be to update Camera Raw to version ACR 6.7. However this will restrict you to using Lr 4 as your working raw converter, and ACR 6.7 will serve as the import module to Photoshop CS5 only but not as an alternate raw converter. If you want to be able to process your raw files in Lr 4 and in ACR 7 and freely switch forwards and backwards between these then (and only then) you will have to upgrade to CS6. This will be convenient and is highly recommended but not utterly required. Upgrading to CS6 (and hence, ACR 7) won't enable you to do anything with your raw files that you couldn't do in Lr 4 + CS5 + ACR 6.7 as well. But it will be more convenient in some use cases ... and you'll get advanced Photoshop and Bridge functionality, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 11, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) So if i work on a file in LR4 then save it and use Bridge/CS5 to open it, presumably it will open in ACR6.7, but will that show the 2010 sliders or the 2012 sliders? If it shows the 2012 sliders will I be able to work with them? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted March 12, 2012 Whether it opens in ACR or directly in PS depends both on the format you export it in and the import preferences of ACR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkClark Posted March 12, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 12, 2012 I've been opening my RAW files directly to PS (via ACR) with the ACR settings reset to zero to do all my sharpening in PS. Assuming I'll be going into PS from DPP, what sharpening workflow do others use with DPP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 12, 2012 I've been opening my RAW files directly to PS (via ACR) with the ACR settings reset to zero to do all my sharpening in PS. Assuming I'll be going into PS from DPP, what sharpening workflow do others use with DPP? Good morning Matt welcome to the Leica Forum. Just one suggestion and that is change your 'Font colour to black cos on my monitor its coming up in white and its very difficult to read. Best wishes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 12, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 12, 2012 Whether it opens in ACR or directly in PS depends both on the format you export it in and the import preferences of ACR. I would not export it from LR, just close LR, then open in ACR. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted March 12, 2012 I've been opening my RAW files directly to PS (via ACR) with the ACR settings reset to zero to do all my sharpening in PS. Assuming I'll be going into PS from DPP, what sharpening workflow do others use with DPP? As far as I can make out your post ( please leave the font color on automatic) the answer is here. One-pass sharpening in Photoshop is not the optimum way: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/130720-m9-faqs-frequently-asked-questions-answers-2.html#post1585133 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted March 12, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 12, 2012 I would not export it from LR, just close LR, then open in ACR. Jeff Assuming one has LR4 and CS5, I'm not sure why you would want to open in one Raw converter using Adobe 2012 (LR4) into another using 2010 (ACR)? My workflow is normally out of LR4 to CS5 as a Smart Object and 16 bit TIFF. If one wants to double process as a smart object, create a virtual two virtual copies of the same image and export each as "Smart Objects" after doing the adjustments to each. Select the move tool and while holding the Shift Key dragging one image over the other and creating an image area with a single image area with two Layers perfectly matched pixel to pixel. Main problem is one cannot go out of CS5 to ACR limitless time. Soon to be fixed once CS6 is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted March 12, 2012 You can do that in CS 5 as well: Copy onto a layer, convert to smart object, open as camera raw and it is in ACR. I think there is no limit on the number of times there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted March 12, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 12, 2012 You can do that in CS 5 as well: Copy onto a layer, convert to smart object, open as camera raw and it is in ACR. I think there is no limit on the number of times there. Exactly, but I think the way 2012 is handling the files is much improved. I made my completely un-statistically relevant hypothesis by playing with a couple files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted March 12, 2012 Share #16 Posted March 12, 2012 I must admit that my use of LR is only half-hearted, I still prefer ACR/PS except for the absence of a history function in ACR, which is present in LR. So if I use LR then I'm likely to leave the file as a RAW file and then open in ACR, where I will just check that I'm happy with the adjustments, maybe tweak a little bit more, then open in PS as a 16bit file and do a few more things, crop, sharpen, selective adjustments etc before printing. I much prefer resizing/printing in PS where I have full control. Even though LR 4 has softproofing it does not offer absolute colormetric which I sometimes find gives me a look that I prefer. I dont use smart objects. Hopefully the ACR in PSCS6 will have a history function. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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