jdlaing Posted March 11, 2012 Share #41 Â Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) How do these stores pay the rent?A lot of money in Dallas but no Leica store. Doesn't really matter to me because I know it will just be an empty store anyway. Â You could get a Ferrari in Dallas or Houston. I think Arlington Camera is a Leica dealer. In Houston the Houston Camera Exchange used to be a Leica dealer. Â Thats about it I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janki Posted March 11, 2012 Share #42  Posted March 11, 2012 I had a patient who was a luxury car dealer who told me that when someone came into the showroom the salesmen would look at the shoes as the sign as to whether they could afford the car.  However, he said that was in the past and sales staff make assumptions about the spending power of potential purchasers by their appearance at their peril and profit.  I do not think it is wise to judge people just based on their pants and footwear. Is there anyone who recognizes these jeans and jogging shoes from the first picture?   The second picture is showing Norway's second-richest man, good for about 4.5 billion U.S. $. He is always dressed this way. What would you think if you met this tramp on the street, or even worse, - that he appeared in a Leica shop, while you were to buy a new lens? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/174522-arrogant-dealer/?do=findComment&comment=1951161'>More sharing options...
bpalme Posted March 11, 2012 Share #43 Â Posted March 11, 2012 I know but I was talking about these "Leica" stores. They're pretty much empty. I haven't been to Arlington Camera but when Cooters was in business they only had a couple of old lenses and no feedback while you were on their waiting list. I wasted about 6 months with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 11, 2012 Share #44 Â Posted March 11, 2012 Janki, Â "Insanely" great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig882009 Posted March 11, 2012 Share #45 Â Posted March 11, 2012 dont judge a book by its cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 12, 2012 Share #46 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I do not think it is wise to judge people just based on their pants and footwear.Is there anyone who recognizes these jeans and jogging shoes from the first picture? Â Â The second picture is showing Norway's second-richest man, good for about 4.5 billion U.S. $. He is always dressed this way. What would you think if you met this tramp on the street, or even worse, - that he appeared in a Leica shop, while you were to buy a new lens? Â I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear but his point is exactly what you just demonstrated so well... that you can't judge a book by its cover! Â Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 12, 2012 Share #47 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Some interesting responses here. Â I operate a simple approach. If I walk into a shop I may buy something there; I have walked in either because I want a specific item that they may sell or because I am generally interested in what they stock. The first time I am approached by a shop assistant, doing their job, I will either respond clearly with what I am looking for or to the question "Can I help you?" my standard response is a short but courteous "Not yet." We this both know where we stand, then and they can get on with helping somebody else in the meantime, whilst I am free to browse. Â If I then subsequently see something that I do want to purchase I will re-engage. However, if I get hassled - either by being followed around the shop having things "straightened" after I have dared to touch them - or by the same assistant trying to bond with me by wittering on about the item that I am currently looking at - I will, 9 times out of ten, walk out at that point, more often than not explaining why as I do so. Â In short, I am happy to be sold to, but abhor being sold at. I will also walk out of a shop if I am forced to use a self-service checkout, or if the shop is kept too hot for the benefit of the cold-blooded lizard staff. Â I am a customer and I always have a choice. Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted March 12, 2012 Share #48 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Nothing wrong with your approach, Bill, provided you have an alternative source in mind and which is reasonably accessible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 12, 2012 Share #49 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Nothing wrong with your approach, Bill, provided you have an alternative source in mind and which is reasonably accessible. Â Bear in mind, David, that my choice can also be to not buy at all. There is very little in this world that is sold in a shop that is essential or unique, Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted March 12, 2012 Share #50 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Agreed, Bill. I no longer have the luxury of wandering into a Leica dealer's shop just to peruse. The nearest one to me only has just a few used items. To find anything new is a day's trip to the metropolis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ornello Posted March 12, 2012 Share #51 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Agreed, Bill. I no longer have the luxury of wandering into a Leica dealer's shop just to peruse. The nearest one to me only has just a few used items. To find anything new is a day's trip to the metropolis! Â It's not just having money that qualifies a buyer...it's whether they have it and are willing to spend it! Â I used to sell European cameras in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I dealt with professional people, doctors, dentists, lawyers, professors, and business owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Allsopp Posted March 12, 2012 Share #52 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I remember going into a Volvo showroom to see the new 760 estate, the sales person said" Do you know how much they are?" Â Asked for the DP, explained my reason for not buying and left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted March 12, 2012 Share #53 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Not every mom&pop camera store that went belly-up did so without some complicity in their own downfall. It's noble that we should all patronize the local shop even if it means paying more, but it's based on the premise that those local shops offer us a value-added in terms of personalized customer service. But pay more and get treated like they're doing me a favor by taking my money? Place like that deserves to go broke. Â OTOH, from experience I can say that the boss doesn't hear and see everything his employees say and do. We've all probably lost clients/patients/customers because of the attitude of one of our employees. I was always grateful when someone came to me and told me about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted March 12, 2012 Share #54 Â Posted March 12, 2012 Cartier boutique wasn't that nice.... but they have no problem let my wife try on the watch. I just had a shirt on with jeans. Â Maybe Leica should have some kind of survey to rate the dealers. My BMW dealership always call after a visit, make sure I rate them high...... Â I thought Leica are very popular in Asian countries, they should know many Asians dress down. One of my HS friend his father owns a large oil factory in China, he went to a Porsche dealership asking to test drive, and he was turn down. Next day, he went back and asked another agent to test drive a Porsche, and paid cash on the spot. Â The same bad experience I had with Cartier/Vienna. Not dressed well you don't get a good experience there but I've enjoyed to say after just 10min: "ok I'll buy the ring". Now that face reaction you have to experience once in a life time (doesn't matter if you are rich/poor). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted March 12, 2012 Share #55 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I really can recommend LeicaShop.com (official store)They will deliever worldwide! Another one is Leica MĂĽnchen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted March 12, 2012 Share #56 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I really can recommend LeicaShop.com (official store)They will deliever worldwide! Another one is Leica MĂĽnchen! Â +1 for Leicashop. I bought an R telephoto from them many years ago, used, and when it arrived I found the locking screw for the tripod collar was bent on its shaft. The store owner (Mr. Coelnen or something like that??) got me new screw from Solms and sent it to me. The shipping probably cost him more than the part. I said I'd order it from New Jersey but he insisted, said New Jersey would have to get it from Solms and it could take a long time while I was unhappy with my purchase. I believe it's the same firm that runs the Westlicht auctions, no? Â Leica Munchen...is that the little store around the corner from Marienzplatz? It saved a very rainy day from being a total washout for me...although my wife was less amused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redridge Posted March 12, 2012 Share #57 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I have no problems walking out of places that won't give me time of day.... Im a jeans and "T" shirt guy and really not into looks. If the sales guys can see that about me and give me the time, they usually have a pretty easy sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil U Posted March 12, 2012 Share #58 Â Posted March 12, 2012 I walked into Harrods and asked a sales assistant if they could point me in the direction of something that would fit my ÂŁ5 budget. "Certainly, sir", said the assistant politely, "there is the door". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janki Posted March 12, 2012 Share #59  Posted March 12, 2012 Mark P, - it's just me.:) You're absolutely right that times have changed, - and fortunately it is more common today using other ways to assess people's ability and willingness to invest, than just the first impression of apperance.   Any seller should also be aware that many rich people can be very eccentric, and quite a few of them like “to snob downward”.  In fact, there are also very rich people who do not use more on themselves than what is absolute most needed. But they will probably not appear in the Leica store anyway.  For the sake of order, here is also the full picture of the two people who may have contributed to change our lives most of all, the past two decades. If any at all would be in doubt about who’s the owner of the jogging shoes.  Regards! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/174522-arrogant-dealer/?do=findComment&comment=1952278'>More sharing options...
Guest Joachim_I Posted March 12, 2012 Share #60 Â Posted March 12, 2012 James's Rolls Royce story reminds me of my visit of the Hasselblad factory in Gothenburg many years ago. I was travelling through Sweden with Interrail (a cheap train ticket, valid for four weeks, which basically allowed me to take any train in Europe for free; not sure if this still exist). When I came through Gothenburg, I decided to pay Hasselblad a visit. I was 16 years old and wearing the kind of clothes Interrail customers usually wear (old jeans and T-shirt). I had a huge backback with me from which a pair of old boots were hanging. I also had my first humble camera with me, a Nikon FG. Hasselblad at that time certainly was as unreachable for me as a Rolls Royce. Â I pushed the door bell at Hasselblad and asked for the possibility of a factory visit. To my surprise, I was granted an immediate tour through the building. I had a private tour guide in a dark blue suit who showed me around for more than an hour. Towards the end of the tour, he led me to a projection room, where I could see a multi-projector slide show the company just had prepared for presentation at the Photokina fair in Cologne a month later. If I remember correctly, it involved 12 of their 6x6 projectors. I was overwhelmed by this treatment and to this day carry with me a key ring I obtained from my guide on that occasion which features a miniature 500C/M model. Â Did I buy a Hasselblad later? No. While I switched to medium format about 12 years later, I decided for a Pentax 67II which is still my most frequently used camera. I just preferred the aspect ratio of 6x7. I almost feel guilty about it... Joachim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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