darylgo Posted March 10, 2012 Share #21 Posted March 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another question, if it is beneficial at all for M9 shooters to upgrade from 3 to 4. LR4 has not added much for the image processing, did not go in depth. Instead, it has expanded laterally, to please, I suppose, the mainstream advanced amateurs. For professional work, the "books", "websites", "slideshows" modules of LR are not sufficient solutions anyway. I will either stay with LR3.6, or will look for another raw processor. Soft proofing has been added, this should make print output closer to the screen image. After using Capture One Pro for the past several weeks I find the interface to be easy and the files slightly more pushable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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delander † Posted March 10, 2012 Share #22 Posted March 10, 2012 What has always been an major annoyance in LR to me is that you are forced to use the LR catalog in order to process a raw image. The program did not have a "file" mode like DxO Optics Professional or Corel AfterShot Pro.Is that still the case? If there is no way around using the catalog I won't even bother to download a trial version. Any use I make of the catalog is minimal. I import from a disk location and then select the images I want to work with. Any changes made to them are available when you import the images again from the HD. However I agree that it is annoying that the program does not have a straightforward file mode so that it can be used like ACR, but then again it has stuff that ACR does not have like 'history'. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkostas Posted March 10, 2012 Share #23 Posted March 10, 2012 There is a problem with Lightroom 4.Edit in external editor does not work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 10, 2012 Share #24 Posted March 10, 2012 There is a problem with Lightroom 4.Edit in external editor does not work. It appears that it works if you have Photoshop CS 5. Not much help if you don't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted March 10, 2012 Share #25 Posted March 10, 2012 It appears that it works if you have Photoshop CS 5. Not much help if you don't though. Good to know as I was thinking most people that were experiencing the problem were on Lion. I have Snow Leopard and CS5. I have not had an issue with the software or other external editors such as the Nik suite of products. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 10, 2012 Share #26 Posted March 10, 2012 I'm on Lion myself, but have CS5 and no problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted March 11, 2012 Share #27 Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is considered a download? Is it the input of TAN Number or clicking on a link to download? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted March 11, 2012 Share #28 Posted March 11, 2012 You still have to import to the catalogue. When I first used LR, I hated it. Now I wouldn't be without it. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted March 11, 2012 Share #29 Posted March 11, 2012 Re the LR4 and Edt in function: For a very large number of people the "edit in " menu item is inoperative completely. There are long threads on the Adobe forums about this. I am using Lion and have this problem - SEFX does not come up at all. Everything was fine with LR3, and I am told that the LR4 Beta worked ok. The alleged temporary fix of installing PSE10 /CS5 does not work for me and similarlyfor many others, although it does for some, and I resent being forced to install even temporarily programmes I have no use for. I understand Adobe are aware of the problem - how could they not be! I have no intention of exporting a stand-alone tiff going into SEFX then re-importing into LR4 every time I want a B&W image. I'll stick with LR3 until it's sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanp Posted March 11, 2012 Share #30 Posted March 11, 2012 You still have to import to the catalogue. Thanks for confirming this. Actually I like the LR raw converter, but I hate the workflow I it imposes on me. I do have an excellent DAM already, which manages 10 years worth of images, no need for a second one. It feels like driving a car with two steering wheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagia Posted March 11, 2012 Share #31 Posted March 11, 2012 Actually I like the LR raw converter, but I hate the workflow I it imposes on me. I do have an excellent DAM already, which manages 10 years worth of images, no need for a second one. Exactly my case. I use IDImager software for DAM. My solution is that I write all the metadata into XMP, so that LR can read it from files (for search or filtering purposes), but any real DAM work is done outside of LR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 11, 2012 Share #32 Posted March 11, 2012 I do not want to open a new thread for this issue: Does Lightroom 4 now allow for an easy negative inversion of imported RAW files without going the long way via Photoshop (TIFF conversion first) or the strange solution of using an inverted curve within Lightroom, messing up all development controls with such inverted files? I do use Lightroom also with negative film scans, and this missing function in Lightroom was an issue for me since my use of Lightroom 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstefanlenz Posted March 11, 2012 Share #33 Posted March 11, 2012 LR4 seems to be really slow, cannot reason why. CPU keeps running up, drives me crazy. anyone having this probs too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundestrainer Posted March 11, 2012 Share #34 Posted March 11, 2012 LR4 seems to be really slow, cannot reason why. CPU keeps running up, drives me crazy. anyone having this probs too? On my MBP LR 4 is much slower than LR 3 is, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstefanlenz Posted March 11, 2012 Share #35 Posted March 11, 2012 even better: photoshop stops working now, too. i cannot believe it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 12, 2012 Share #36 Posted March 12, 2012 With CS5 (incl. Photoshop) I have no problems running LR4 on a Mac under Snow Leopard. I'm even playing with the latest ACR 6.7 RC which works partially with PS5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 13, 2012 Share #37 Posted March 13, 2012 Can you invert a negative in Lr 4 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 13, 2012 Share #38 Posted March 13, 2012 Can you invert a negative in Lr 4 ? I don't see any easy way to do it as in PS - using the same keystrokes it brings up the image info instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted March 13, 2012 Share #39 Posted March 13, 2012 Can you invert a negative in Lr 4 ? Does this help? Inverting photos in Lightroom - Open Photography Forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted March 13, 2012 Share #40 Posted March 13, 2012 Ah - that's a pity :-( So Lr4 doesn't improve work for film shooters. The issue with using he inverted curve is, that all controls in Lr with these files are messed up. I use this way, to get quick scans into the web, but for serious work with negative files, one is forced, to work with TIFFs, producing redundant data and extra work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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