roberth Posted February 28, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted February 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) So apart from the antique gentleman what else is different in these shots? v1.09, latest hardware so I am told, camera less than 1 month old. hhhmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted February 28, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted February 28, 2007 Err, the second one is in focus? Â Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted February 28, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted February 28, 2007 boredom set in on the second one as nobody bothered to come by??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberth Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share #4 Â Posted February 28, 2007 well it was not out of focus, just me being to quick on teh release. Â I thought the green smear halfway up the right was obvious, I'll go back to bed then, maybe it is not the camera and just my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 28, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted February 28, 2007 I agree, obvious smear. Looks to me like there's a headlight right at the image edge which causes the "reference pixel breakthrough" problem and the smear extends to the centre of the image. Â This was the situation which I suggested to Leica they should recognise by doing a reasonableness check on the reference pixels and taking a second blank exposure with the shutter closed if they are out of bounds. Whether we'll get such a firmware fix is another matter... Â It seems to be down to the masking around the sensor not being as opaque as it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberth Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share #6 Â Posted February 28, 2007 does the light have to on the very edge of the frame/sensor? This photo does not show a light at the very edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted February 28, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted February 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) does the light have to on the very edge of the frame/sensor? This photo does not show a light at the very edge. My M8 does it with light sources just outside the frame - not very often but often enough to make me nervous shooting indoors with multiple spotlights around. Â Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted February 28, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 28, 2007 does the light have to on the very edge of the frame/sensor? This photo does not show a light at the very edge. Â There's a border of 24 pixels (approximately) all the way round the live part which is meant to be in the dark. If the lens is projecting a bright light onto this part, you can get the problem. So typically, the light is at the edge/just outside. In your picture, I see the glare of a headlight so it looks like the light itself is just outside the frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magyarman Posted February 28, 2007 Share #9  Posted February 28, 2007 My M8 does it with light sources just outside the frame - not very often but often enough to make me nervous shooting indoors with multiple spotlights around. Bob.  This I scare cant to be fix up by any firmware. Mabe except write new firmware, Leica better way write new page to operator book what tell list where M8 is cant to shoot and where is can;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirvine Posted February 28, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted February 28, 2007 It's Leica's way of simulating film defects. Let's call it 'character' and avoid all the messy firmware programming, ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 28, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted February 28, 2007 Mark's solution seems very well possible, Blasko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 28, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted February 28, 2007 would you happen to know if there is any edge left on the sensor outside the image frame Mark. If there was it would register black yes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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