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Also seems only to be a trial version. No upgrade or full version purchase available.

 

Correction: once you have installed, you get the option to buy or upgrade.

The inital Adobe page is a little confusing as it only offers the trial.

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I will soon find out if the Leica LR credit I have been saving up works on LR4.

 

Probably not yet. I seem to recall it was a month or so before Leica updated the previous download entitlement (when it went from LR2 to LR3). I'd check with Leica before using up your TAN code.

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Probably not yet. I seem to recall it was a month or so before Leica updated the previous download entitlement (when it went from LR2 to LR3). I'd check with Leica before using up your TAN code.

 

You are correct. LR3 is the only option available right now.

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I couldn't get the beta version to work properly just took forever after starting up (about 5 minutes) before it would start operating. think I will wait a while before installing again

 

There's nothing to stop you downloading it as a trial and seeing if it's better than the beta.

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In reality the only real reason I would need to upgrade is if the RAW converter is a load better in version 4. when I changed from LR2 to 3 it was like getting a new camera and I don't know if this is the case this time. What are the real advantages in the new version as regards to processing?

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In LR4 Lens corrections are availiable for

 

Leica LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M 75 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M 90 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA APO-TELYT-M 135 mm f/3.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMAR-M 24 mm f/3.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-M 28 mm f/2.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-M 90 mm f/2.8

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-S 1:2.8/30 mm ASPH.

Leica LEICA MACRO-ELMAR-M 90 mm f/4

Leica LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50 mm f/0.95 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 35 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 50 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 75 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 90 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 28 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 35 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 50 mm f/2

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 21 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 24 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 35 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 50 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUPER-ELMAR-M 18 mm f/3.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUPER-ELMAR-M 21 mm f/3.4 ASPH.

 

in addition to the S lenses that were already there...

 

Before you run out and spend the money, the "corrections" are also available in the release candidate of the new camera raw which works in perfectly FINE in Photoshop CS5 and LR3.

 

Download Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 Release Candidate - Adobe Labs

 

I use Adobe LR3 lens corrections on some of my Nikon lenses, the 17-35 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 VR (version one) benefit from it the most, mostly correcting barrel distortion in the wider zoom and vignetting in the tele zoom. I have stopped using corrections on the Nikon primes, in my case, 55 1.2, 55 2.8 micro, 85 1.4, 105 2 defocus, and 300 2.8 mostly because I see no difference or improvement in what the image looks like. I do not use it on the 28-70 2.8 zoom, one, because it's not listed, and two, because it doesn't do anything.

 

I would contend the image quality of almost ALL of these M lenses listed are not going to benefit greatly or AT ALL from software "correction". When I apply the Adobe 50 Summicron "correction" to images I have taken with a 50 Summicron, it does absoutely nothing, mostly because it didn't need to be corrected in the first place. The signature of the Leica lens is what I'm looking for, not Adobe's corrected version.

 

Just my opinion.

Jay

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When I changed from LR2 to 3 it was like getting a new camera and I don't know if this is the case this time.

Basically it is the case indeed. Maybe the difference is somewhat less dramatic than the last time but there definitely is a difference for the better (new 2012 process, among other things).

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In reality the only real reason I would need to upgrade is if the RAW converter is a load better in version 4. when I changed from LR2 to 3 it was like getting a new camera and I don't know if this is the case this time. What are the real advantages in the new version as regards to processing?

 

The new raw converter is worth triple the upgrade price. It makes a noticeable difference.

 

I upgraded this morning. In 5 minutes it was installed and my lr 4 beta files (about 3,500) were transferred. Next I upgraded and imported my lr 3 catalogue (about 50,000 photos) into the new lr4 catalogue. The actual import of photos was in progress when I left home. When I left 13,000 had transferred after about 7 minutes.

 

Looks goo.

 

Jack Siegel

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Are there profiles for any of the Zeiss or Voigtlander M Lenses?

 

In LR4 Lens corrections are availiable for

 

Leica LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M 75 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-M 90 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA APO-TELYT-M 135 mm f/3.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMAR-M 24 mm f/3.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-M 28 mm f/2.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-M 90 mm f/2.8

Leica LEICA ELMARIT-S 1:2.8/30 mm ASPH.

Leica LEICA MACRO-ELMAR-M 90 mm f/4

Leica LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50 mm f/0.95 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 35 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 50 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 75 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMARIT-M 90 mm f/2.5

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 28 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 35 mm f/2 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMICRON-M 50 mm f/2

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 21 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 24 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 35 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUMMILUX-M 50 mm f/1.4 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUPER-ELMAR-M 18 mm f/3.8 ASPH.

Leica LEICA SUPER-ELMAR-M 21 mm f/3.4 ASPH.

 

in addition to the S lenses that were already there...

 

Before you run out and spend the money, the "corrections" are also available in the release candidate of the new camera raw which works in perfectly FINE in Photoshop CS5 and LR3.

 

Download Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 6.7 Release Candidate - Adobe Labs

 

I use Adobe LR3 lens corrections on some of my Nikon lenses, the 17-35 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 VR (version one) benefit from it the most, mostly correcting barrel distortion in the wider zoom and vignetting in the tele zoom. I have stopped using corrections on the Nikon primes, in my case, 55 1.2, 55 2.8 micro, 85 1.4, 105 2 defocus, and 300 2.8 mostly because I see no difference or improvement in what the image looks like. I do not use it on the 28-70 2.8 zoom, one, because it's not listed, and two, because it doesn't do anything.

 

I would contend the image quality of almost ALL of these M lenses listed are not going to benefit greatly or AT ALL from software "correction". When I apply the Adobe 50 Summicron "correction" to images I have taken with a 50 Summicron, it does absoutely nothing, mostly because it didn't need to be corrected in the first place. The signature of the Leica lens is what I'm looking for, not Adobe's corrected version.

 

Just my opinion.

Jay

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Next I upgraded and imported my Lr 3 catalogue (about 50,000 photos) into the new Lr 4 catalogue. The actual import of photos was in progress when I left home.

Beware!

 

I didn't try it myself yet ... but according to hearsay, Lr 4 won't import any changes to the contrast curve. So pictures which just use the default contrast curve will be fine after the transfer but for those where the curve was edited, allegedly it will be back to the default curve after transfer.

 

So before importing your old catalogues to Lr 4, make sure you have a back-up somewhere until this bug gets sorted out.

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Are there profiles for any of the Zeiss or Voigtlander M Lenses?

 

Just what appears to be the full line of Zeiss ZE and ZF, from 18mm to 100mm, Distagons and Planars.

 

They may have been there before, I never looked.

 

No Voightlander lenses are listed.

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