Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Could anyone please give me any tips about how to synchronise flash with a macro set-up using an M9 and a Visoflex III with bellows and an Elmar 65? Â Should I even be considering flash? Â Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted February 21, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted February 21, 2012 I use one of these LED macro ringlights. Easier for focussing too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted February 21, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Use either the vertical magnifier or a low-profile flash connector (e.g. from Michael Bass Designs: Hot Shoe Adapters and Other Couplers). Â Or accept that Leica didn't intend the digital Ms to be used in the studio and use a good macro lens on a Nikon or Canon body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share #4 Â Posted February 21, 2012 ....................Or accept that Leica didn't intend the digital Ms to be used in the studio and use a good macro lens on a Nikon or Canon body. Â Â The best macro set-up I've used recently is a D700 with a Zeiss 100mm or 50mm f2 Makro with Nikon R1c1 with two macro -lights and a couple of SB900s. Â But the Visoflex is far more fun, and actually the results are just as good and sometimes nicer, but for the lighting awkwardness, which I'm determined to overcome. Â I was wondering whether video lighting might be a better answer. Any thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DES Posted February 21, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted February 21, 2012 I have just used the SF56 with a Nikon cord. Great fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share #6 Â Posted February 21, 2012 I have just used the SF56 with a Nikon cord. Great fun. Â With a viso? Â If so, how do you attach it to the camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted February 21, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Continuous (video) lighting is fine except that you face either long vibration-prone exposure times or intense subject-heating light. The LED ring-light Jaap suggested sounds cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 21, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted February 21, 2012 For macro - not studio.But I am sure there is cool LED video light nowadays as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share #9 Â Posted February 21, 2012 I use one of these LED macro ringlights. Easier for focussing too. Â Any links or info Jaap? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 21, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted February 21, 2012 I'd have to google - I picked it up at a sale in a camera shop. Mine is Hama - but I am on the lookout for a bit more powerful one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share #11 Â Posted February 21, 2012 OK, thanks Jaap. I'll have a google around for it. Does it work with an M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 21, 2012 Share #12  Posted February 21, 2012 With a viso? If so, how do you attach it to the camera?  It's easy:  You use the vertical magifier for the Viso (this is essential; don't try to get anything which fits under the horizontal viewfinder of the Viso!). Attach the Nikon SC 28 to the camera's hotshoe and the flash on the cable's hotshoe. Then you have all possibilities with the flash:  [ATTACH]301656[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 21, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Use the straight up vertical finder so the hot shoe is not blocked. Vertical format will be difficult. Â Use a viso 1 with 45 deg finder. This is by far the best portrait set up for M viso anyway. I use a 125 2.5 Hector. Â Camera rotates horizontal or vertical and finder does not move much like a 45 deg finder on RG67. Â In general, no one is complaining about no sync plug. I think we should Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share #14 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Uli and Tobey, thanks so much for your advice. Â It looks like my main problem will be finding the vertical finder. I've been looking for one for months. But I'll get on to it again with renewed determination now! Â Tobey, I use a Viso III with my M9. Why do you suggest the Viso I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DES Posted February 21, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Sorry for the late reply but Uliwer has it bang on. This is the best way to go by far but I also do not have a vertical finder so what I had to do when taking shots of high speed water (posed on this site) was focus on the exact spot I wanted using a tooth pick.. Then very carefully remove the finder and fit the sync cord and flash. In fact before I got the cord I got good results just with the flash on the camera angled down over. Very rewarding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share #16 Â Posted February 22, 2012 Thank you DES Â I'm definitely going to try that. If I get anywhere near the quality of your pictures I'll be both delighted and amazed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 22, 2012 Share #17 Â Posted February 22, 2012 The advantage of the viso 1 is the camera can be rotated to vertical or horizontal without the viso being rotated. Secondly it takes take the 45 deg finder which is a gem to use. For many things it is easier to use than looking straight down or straight forward such as in a portrait situation where the subject is low and you would have to crouch way down to use it. Hassy and RB studio users use a 45 deg finder almost always. Anything else is a real pain. Â The down side is it is thick so the shortest lens that will officially focus to infinity is 135, but my 125 seems ok also. It will be like using an OUBIO glued to a viso 2 or 3. You also need a double cable release or a device called cable release link so you can raise the mirror and trip the shutter with one motion. Â But for portraits and nature work,it is a jewel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 22, 2012 Share #18  Posted February 22, 2012 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/groups/visoflex.html  Pic of the viso 1 , 45 deg finder, 125 2.5 Hector, top right. What is not shown is the camera will go vertical leaving the viso fixed. Hot shoe is of course free at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted February 22, 2012 Share #19  Posted February 22, 2012 I used stereo microscope lights for the these http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/technology-industry/208396-macro-tech-art.html but the lights were perhaps a bit strong  Similar lights on Zeiss page here KL 200 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted February 22, 2012 OK, thanks Jaap. I'll have a google around for it. Does it work with an M9? It is completely camera - independent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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