amritsg Posted February 9, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted February 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey guys! Â Just had a recent discussion with one of my buddies and I was shocked to hear about the rise in price for a couple of lenses. For example, I had acquired a 35 Summicron V1 just the year before and at least locally I can get offers of about twice the original price and in Japan, it has gone to 2.5 times my original. Â Just wanted to ask if there were any other lenses experiencing this phenomenon. Â Thanks! Amrit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ho_co Posted February 10, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Since so few new lenses are available new, most used lenses have gone up tremendously in the last couple years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted February 10, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Do you guys think next Jan. there will be similar price increases? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted February 10, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Do you guys think next Jan. there will be similar price increases? Â As long as the (partially artificial?) shortage continues, there definetely will be one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted February 10, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Thanks..I've only been in Leica land for about a year so wasn't sure if they do this every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 10, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted February 10, 2012 ....if they do this every year. Â Who is "they"? Â I understood your question was about second hand lenses (Summicron version 1). So "they" can only mean every private seller who demands high prices, and every buyer who pays them. That's called market. Â The so called "shortage" of new lenses from Leica is nothing else than asking for some patience as you don't get lenses immediately but have to wait some months- in some cases shorter in some longer. Â Lack of patience - one might also call it greed - is the main instigating factor for rising prices on the second hand market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted February 10, 2012 Share #7  Posted February 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Who is "they"? I understood your question was about second hand lenses (Summicron version 1). So "they" can only mean every private seller who demands high prices, and every buyer who pays them. That's called market.  The so called "shortage" of new lenses from Leica is nothing else than asking for some patience as you don't get lenses immediately but have to wait some months- in some cases shorter in some longer.  Lack of patience - one might also call it greed - is the main instigating factor for rising prices on the second hand market.   The way I read it, he was refering to new lenses, they being Leica themselves. The TO was asking about used ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted February 10, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted February 10, 2012 Sorry, you are right! Â I took bpalme, to whom I responded for the thread opener - which he wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtaylor Posted February 10, 2012 Share #9  Posted February 10, 2012 Who is "they"? I understood your question was about second hand lenses (Summicron version 1). So "they" can only mean every private seller who demands high prices, and every buyer who pays them. That's called market.  The so called "shortage" of new lenses from Leica is nothing else than asking for some patience as you don't get lenses immediately but have to wait some months- in some cases shorter in some longer.  Lack of patience - one might also call it greed - is the main instigating factor for rising prices on the second hand market.  While I feel there is truth in your statement (waited patiently 16 months for the 35 FLE), there are definitely additional forces at work, such as the success of the M9. IMO, lack of patience/greed has aggravated the underlying issue. If the M9 had not been successful, I doubt lens prices would be where they were today- albeit higher, but not at some of the insane prices we see today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted February 10, 2012 Share #10  Posted February 10, 2012 While I feel there is truth in your statement (waited patiently 16 months for the 35 FLE), there are definitely additional forces at work, such as the success of the M9. IMO, lack of patience/greed has aggravated the underlying issue. If the M9 had not been successful, I doubt lens prices would be where they were today- albeit higher, but not at some of the insane prices we see today.  My understanding is that Leica expected to sell approximately 1.5 new Leica lenses per new M9 sold. I fact the demand for lenses has been approx. 3.5 new Leica lenses per new M9 sold.  I certainly exceeded the average, let alone what Leica expected, buying 7 new lenses (and only one 2nd hand) for my M9* ...and I'm not buying any more... That's about 7 months of lens production so blame me for the worldwide shortage:D  Mark   * premature mid life crisis: but a better alternative to an affair or a red sports car, and with my wife's full support:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted February 11, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted February 11, 2012 Do you guys think next Jan. there will be similar price increases? Â Yes, Leica usually increases prices around January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amritsg Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share #12 Â Posted February 11, 2012 Well I sort have gotten a reply. But I think it's a bit off from what I was thinking. I do know that official prices have gone up and so on. But I'm actually referring to the older classic lenses from the 50s-90s. I mean we've all seen the astronomical rise of the noctilux 1.2. So what do you foresee as the future "noctilux1.2-like"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 11, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted February 11, 2012 Well I sort have gotten a reply. But I think it's a bit off from what I was thinking. I do know that official prices have gone up and so on. But I'm actually referring to the older classic lenses from the 50s-90s. I mean we've all seen the astronomical rise of the noctilux 1.2. So what do you foresee as the future "noctilux1.2-like"? Â Perhaps Noculix f1.0. Keep in mind some people prefer the Mandler look of rendition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 11, 2012 Share #14 Â Posted February 11, 2012 PRICES OF USED CARS GO UP WHEN PRICE OF NEW CARS GO UP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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