robbegibson Posted February 27, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted February 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) How come no one looks at the 50mm Elmar-M ? Sharp, but not as harsh as the Summicron, not as soft as the Noct, nice bokeh, small, light, f2.8 is a drawback for dof, though. Â Just curious. Â Robbe Gibson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted February 27, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted February 27, 2007 Because it can't be used on the M8, probably. At least you would have to tape the lens tube to prevent yourself from collapsing the lens in a fit of absentmindedness. Â The old man from the Age of Collapsible Cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted February 27, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted February 27, 2007 The 50mm elmar collapses just fine on the M8. I sold mine because I thougth it doesn't. Had to buy it again when I found out its fine. Apparently there is alot of confusion about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 27, 2007 Share #24  Posted February 27, 2007 for me 75 /1.4 and 50/1.4 on M6 but now on M8 i even us the 35 for portraits altough mostley the 50  With crop, the 35 Lux is a fabulous portrait lens, but it depends on how much compression you like / need and how close you like to work  Depends, too, on how much of the body your portrait will show.  But for traditional head / shoulders shots, Carsten is right on the money (though I've seen some great 135 shots lately). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted February 27, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted February 27, 2007 What about the 90 marco elmar current??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haika Posted February 27, 2007 Share #26  Posted February 27, 2007 on the m6, i use mainly 75 lux; occasionally the apo-telyt. as perspective does not change with the crop factor, i assume that the 75 should also be the lens of choice for the m8 (which i hope to get shortly), albeit with a slightly longer working distance.  servus, günter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 27, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted February 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) There seems to be an overwhelming consensus that "portrait" equals "head and shoulders" or maybe heads alone. And certainly 75mm and up does that elegantly with whatever style you desire. But take a look at the portrait gallery that Walt Odets linked in here a few days ago, at Portraits , and ask yourselves how much more you can say about a person if you include their natural habitat. These appear to have been taken (full frame, film) with 50mm and wider lenses, (perhaps as wide as 28mm in one example). I particularly like the one of film director Jean Renoir, in a traditional cramped French apartment kitchen. Even with his back to the camera, it says a lot about the world he expresses. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 27, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted February 27, 2007 Perspective does change with a longer working distance, however. The look of the pictures, with respect to angle of view, are like working with a 75 * 1.33 = 100mm lens, provided you frame your shots the same way, regardless of which camera you use. The aperture and depth of field are different, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJL Posted February 27, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted February 27, 2007 Part of that perspective change does impact the final image. Longer lenses do create a more compressed look and can provide a bit more separation of the subject from its background and foreground. The compression also can be more flattering to some facial features, such as nose and ears. If one is shooting a lot of head shots, they do tend to look better taken from a distance with a longer lens. However, there is something to be said for "portraits" that encompass more surrounding and help "define" the person in other ways than just facial features or something. Just my opinions. Â LJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haika Posted February 27, 2007 Share #30  Posted February 27, 2007 carsten,  you are right. of course, perspective changes with a longer working distance (if i want to include the same amount of background). what i meant was that a 75 mm lens is still a 75 mm lens, and although the field of view may equal a 100 mm lens, you do not get the slightly more "flattened" look of the longer lens with the 75.  servus, günter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 27, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted February 27, 2007 If you stay put while changing lenses from your M6 to your M8, the flattened look doesn't change, but you will fit less of the subject. However, as soon as you step back, the look flattens, even though it is a 75mm lens. The flat look is strictly a function of subject distance (ignoring fisheye lenses). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted February 27, 2007 Share #32  Posted February 27, 2007 carsten, What i meant was that a 75 mm lens is still a 75 mm lens, and although the field of view may equal a 100 mm lens, you do not get the slightly more "flattened" look of the longer lens with the 75.  Well, in order to get the same picture in terms of framing, you must to change the distance to the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted February 28, 2007 Share #33  Posted February 28, 2007 Lots of wonderful insights based on years of shooting with various Leica lenses.  I personally stick with what works for me which is a longer lens with more distance from the subject to the camera.  I want to be able to interact with the model throughout the shoot and I find that when I am in the model's face this is hard to do. So with the R system I find the 180 2.0 ideal for my work. i am still experimenting but I believe I will end up with the 135 3.4 and near wide open apertures to get the look I desire. We'll see though won't we?  Just my HO  Woody  And Guy, not only are you an compositional genius but the way you light the scene is just other worldly! No wonder you are in such demand for corporate work e.g. annual reports.  Love to get together some day at a workshop or something to learn from you how to do these things.  Woody Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted February 28, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted February 28, 2007 The 50mm elmar collapses just fine on the M8. I sold mine because I thougth it doesn't. Had to buy it again when I found out its fine. Apparently there is alot of confusion about this. Â Well -- Leica say no! At least they do in my M8 manual. Â The old man from the Age of Collapsible Cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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