mjh Posted January 19, 2012 Share #21 Posted January 19, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks like a Photoshop job to me. Anyway, what’s “5-axis shake reduction” supposed to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Hi mjh, Take a look here New EVIL camera, - classic design?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
kanzlr Posted January 19, 2012 Share #22 Posted January 19, 2012 I think it means up/down/back/forth/tilt Thats supposed to help with shake in handheld macro photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2012 Share #23 Posted January 19, 2012 Looks like a Photoshop job to me. Anyway, what’s “5-axis shake reduction” supposed to be? The sync socket/switch and mirror-up button (digging back in memory here ) on the side of the lens mount housing are straight OM details that are unlikely to have a place on a digital camera, so ---> Photoshop fake imo. Still no rumours on the sensor size.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 19, 2012 Share #24 Posted January 19, 2012 I think it means up/down/back/forth/tilt Thats supposed to help with shake in handheld macro photography. Only rotational movement (yaw, pitch, and roll) can be compensated and only yaw and pitch usually is; translational movement (up/down, left/right, and back/forth) cannot since it changes perspective. Canon claims to be able to also compensate up/down and left/right movement but I haven’t seen a convincing explanation how that is supposed to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanzlr Posted January 19, 2012 Share #25 Posted January 19, 2012 you asked what it is "supposed" to be, not what it really means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 19, 2012 Share #26 Posted January 19, 2012 you asked what it is "supposed" to be, not what it really means The rumour sites typically quote such stuff without knowing what it means or even thinking about it; that’s why they are so gullible and can be fed just about any BS. But it might have been that somebody out there had some real info, assuming for the moment that there was any truth in these specs. (If Olympus should announce an OM-lookalike, I would assume it was basically another MFT model with an integrated viewfinder, thus taking the OM series as inspiration for its design, rather than the old Pen models that had inspired the design of the viewfinder-less MFT bodies.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2012 Share #27 Posted January 19, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) you asked what it is "supposed" to be, not what it really means I doubt it is supposed to mean anything. It sounds like empty-headed marketing blah to me, on par with "triple-action dirt removal washing powder"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted January 19, 2012 Share #28 Posted January 19, 2012 ........Still no rumours on the sensor size.. It will be a Micro Four Thirds camera 16.05-megapixel sensor Built-in 1,440K dot electronic viewfinder New in-body stabilization and auto-focus systems Water and dust sealed magnesium body 121mm thickness and 425g weight To come in black and white with a late March release date Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papimuzo Posted January 19, 2012 Share #29 Posted January 19, 2012 we can take the "OM-" inspiration the same way the M8/M9 were from Mx inspiration? These days it seems that "old is beautiful" be the words (i.e. FUJI)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted January 19, 2012 Share #30 Posted January 19, 2012 izzit full frame? is there a Leica R to Olympus adapter? (How many mpg or is that a too fickle question?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 20, 2012 Share #31 Posted January 20, 2012 It will be a Micro Four Thirds camera End of story as far as I'm concerned.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted January 21, 2012 Share #32 Posted January 21, 2012 Not interested in a micro 4/3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 21, 2012 Share #33 Posted January 21, 2012 I think we're in new territory here, a non-Leica camera that hasn't been released being compared to a Leica camera that hasn't been released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 21, 2012 Share #34 Posted January 21, 2012 I think we're in new territory here, a non-Leica camera that hasn't been released being compared to a Leica camera that hasn't been released. Can we some imaginary comparison images of rulers, cats and brick walls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted January 21, 2012 Share #35 Posted January 21, 2012 Oy! You missed focus accuracy/tests:mad: - incomplete, inaccurate, inconclusive etc. we need numbers not impressions:D Edit: Also there is a lack of a standardized cat, maybe we should fix that first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted January 22, 2012 Share #36 Posted January 22, 2012 Leica M9 with P upgrade Olympus OM4 Ti (if they could makes it same size with full frame sensor!!!!) Both with 50 f1.4 lenses Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The OM1 was my first serious camera and I stuck with the system up to the OM4, I then changed to nikon because of certain limitations of the OM system at the time. I always loved it for it's small size and the spot metering system was fantastic but really got superseded by matrix metering. This is a friends camera that I have been borrowing for the last year or so as she no longer uses it Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The OM1 was my first serious camera and I stuck with the system up to the OM4, I then changed to nikon because of certain limitations of the OM system at the time. I always loved it for it's small size and the spot metering system was fantastic but really got superseded by matrix metering. This is a friends camera that I have been borrowing for the last year or so as she no longer uses it ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/170750-new-evil-camera-classic-design/?do=findComment&comment=1905353'>More sharing options...
stevelap Posted February 2, 2012 Share #37 Posted February 2, 2012 http://www.pentax.co.uk/en/digital-mirrorless/K01.html Looks like the 'new retro' CSC market has another entrant. At least this one is APS-C, although it doesn't appear to have a built-in EVF. There should be quite a few of these APS CSC/EVIL cameras around by the time Leica's intentions become clear at photokina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 2, 2012 Share #38 Posted February 2, 2012 Pentax's proof readers need sacking... This is a quote from the Amatuer Photographer news item Speaking to an audience of photography journalists in central London this lunchtime Newson admitted that the camera differs from others on the market. He said it is targeted at people who have an interest in design . In an accompanying video he added: 'I think consumers will be happy that they have been given a choice.' Pentax added in a statement: 'The optical viewfinder and quick-return mirror were eliminated during the design process to allow more freedom in design of the camera body. 'The result is a camera that shows Marc Newson's originality in every detail.' Newson added: 'I wanted to return to the high quality roots of the brand and create something which was really unique and iconic.' So, this is for people who care more about design, than the photographs. Says it all really. No viewfinder, so I assume that it's a "hold at arms length" job. That could be fun with some of Pentax's extreme telephotos on board. To keep this post on topic, is there an M-mount or R-mount adapter coming? Every other camera with a hole in the front seems to aspire to be the next "M9 killer" - why not this one? I would assume that a Leitax would work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted February 2, 2012 Share #39 Posted February 2, 2012 It is a bit maddening... Pentax is a great brand, I like the APS-C sensor, the in-camera stabilization, the great pancake lenses they have, but no EVF or even an optical viewfinder? Why would a company like Pentax sacrifice usability for design and aesthetics??? And, I don't think it is all that impressive from a design standpoint anyway. It looks like a clunky box with a lens mounted on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40mm f/2 Posted February 2, 2012 Share #40 Posted February 2, 2012 What means classic design? Using design elements which had a function many generations before but are obsolete now. The Pentax K01 is a perfect example: it is advertised with the designer's signature but has design elements derived from the mirror box and a mechanical shutter mechanism. The M9 is basically a M7 with a digital sensor using a similar elements for RF, shutter. So having a similar design makes functional sense even there are not 2 spools for film anymore. For a camera without a RF one should look for a more functional design even if it does not look like something one is used to. What happened to form follows function? 2 functions should be the main design considerations: holding a camera with minimal shake/vibration - arms braced at the torso not stretched out seeing the EVIL at all light conditions with high definition without have the nose being an obstacle (M9, NEX 7 or fuji proX-1 work for me as my right eye is dominant) I am thinking about 45 degree viewing angle would be more functional. Cameras one liked a few decades ago should not be design ideas for the next generations of digital cameras. If you like these cameras - buy film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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