steich Posted February 22, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, after searching to the varoius self-coding threads I am a little confused which LTM adapter to use for my SnapShotSkopar 25. Phoning every second photo dealer in Western Europe I found two and now have to choose. The dealers sent me some pictures- can anyone of you please tell me which one to buy? Thanks!!! Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill vann Posted February 22, 2007 Share #2  Posted February 22, 2007 the leica 24 throws up a 24/35 frame line set so i would think that is the one you want.  fwiw, the 28/90s are VERY hard to come by, get it if reasonably price. US ebay ~ $100-125 until someone start making them  I'd be interested in the 28/90 if you don't take it as i need one, advise dealer contacts so i don't have to pay VAT as it would go to the U.S.  Kindly  bill vann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill vann Posted February 22, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted February 22, 2007 I was not clear. i believe you need the 13.5 cm. Â bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted February 22, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted February 22, 2007 You need a 13.5 for the CV 25. That's what I use. The one shown is correct. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 22, 2007 Share #5  Posted February 22, 2007 the leica 24 throws up a 24/35 frame line set so i would think that is the one you want. fwiw, the 28/90s are VERY hard to come by, get it if reasonably price. US ebay ~ $100-125 until someone start making them  I'd be interested in the 28/90 if you don't take it as i need one, advise dealer contacts so i don't have to pay VAT as it would go to the U.S.  Kindly  bill vann  Bill,  I thought both Voigtlander and Elephoto did 28/90 LTM to LMB rings. BTW I have an Elephoto M42 to LMB on the way to use a 16mm M42 fish-eye on the M8.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 22, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted February 22, 2007 If you don't need the 90mm one, and it is in Germany, I would love to buy it. PM me if this becomes relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted February 22, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi. I would buy the cheapest one and cut this lug to 8mm long (or 0.315 in) to get the correct frame. Â [ATTACH]26857[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gduveen Posted February 22, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 22, 2007 You can find the 90 mm at foto-hobby in Frankfurt at: Â http://neu.foto-hobby.de/fhr-e/pd404215604.htm?categoryId=25 Â where it costs 69 Euro. But they also have sets of 5 adapter rings covering all sizes for only 59 Euro. Â And while we're talking about adapters, wouldn't it be an easy thing for Leica to produce 6-bit coded adapters which would make screw-thread lenses adaptable for the M8 -not just Leica lenses, but also other makes. It would seem to be a simple and easy solution. Â Gerard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 22, 2007 Share #9  Posted February 22, 2007 If Leica wanted a simple soultion they'd given us a menu from which to chose the lens we've put on the camera. But no, an over-engineered solution is better. So we end up being considdered too dumb to figure out which lens we're using. Hence it has to be a 'convenient' automatic selection, using "encrypted" lenses (love that term from LFI - jeez, who did the translation?).  Leica get this: If I wanted 'simple' I wouldn't I be here, now would I? I'm here because I want manual controll, I'm able to select my lens from a #¤%&!! menu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 22, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Guess you'd prefer manual frame line selection like the Bessa bodies too Carl :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 22, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Guess you'd prefer manual frame line selection like the Bessa bodies too Carl :-) Â Steve, Â It would not be a total hardship to be able to manually select lens framing and in some instances e.g. putting a Zeiss 21mm Biogon on where you want the 28/90 frame lines to activate coding, it might be quite useful. Â I know exactly what Carl means about German companies making things complicated just because they have the engineering ability to do so. The climate control system on my previous car, an Alpina B10 was so complicated that nobody in the UK was able to get it working properly after a water pump change. It had electric auxiliary water pumps, a vacuum insulated thermal reservoir, solenoid actuated valves, pneumatic air circulation direction adjusters and so on and so on..... I don't think it particularly worked any better for this complication. My current car, also German, has automatic motor driven headlight self-levelling. The suspension is so hard, an elephant could sit on the rear spoiler and it would go down about an inch. Unnecessary complication and another thing to go wrong. KISS obviously does not translate into German. Pete will like this one - Colin Chapman of Lotus' motto for race cars - "simplicate and add lightness." Â In Leica's case the lens coding system, I think, has actually lost them friends - see my post "Management - What Management" and to little real purpose, when a simple menu system would have worked nearly as well and have been much more flexible. You could have extended the profile system to cover favourite lenses. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 23, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted February 23, 2007 Guess you'd prefer manual frame line selection like the Bessa bodies too Carl :-) Â If that was part of the deal, I could live with that. Or a more fancyfied system would be for the appropriate frame lines to appear depending on the lens I selected in the menu. They could do away with the mechanical selection all together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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