stunsworth Posted November 26, 2011 Share #21 Posted November 26, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) +1 for Neopan 1600 for really grainy look What developer was that with? I only ask because I used Xtol and never thought of Neopan 1600 as a very grainy film.. Much finer grained than Delta 3200, though with higher contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted November 26, 2011 Share #22 Posted November 26, 2011 I thought Neopan 1600 was withdrawn last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 26, 2011 Share #23 Posted November 26, 2011 Efke 50 or 100. Same formulas as 1950. Same machinery used to make it. For color, photoshop. selective desaturation by channel and lower contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted November 26, 2011 Share #24 Posted November 26, 2011 What developer was that with? I only ask because I used Xtol and never thought of Neopan 1600 as a very grainy film.. Much finer grained than Delta 3200, though with higher contrast. I don't develop myself and unfortunately don't know what the lab uses. I've only used Delta 3200 once or twice. I seem to remember it was more grainy than Neopan. I bought Neopan 1600 was withdrawn last year. Yes I read something about this but I've still found un-expired rolls in shops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillD Posted November 27, 2011 Share #25 Posted November 27, 2011 I asked a similar question not so long ago and one of the forum members suggested I try Rollei Retro80S - my first roll is still in the camera so I can't talk from personal experience, but the sample images I've seen look very interesting, very contrasty. If you have a look on Flickr there are quite a few examples. But as many others have suggested, just buy a range and have fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted November 27, 2011 Share #26 Posted November 27, 2011 I asked a similar question not so long ago and one of the forum members suggested I try Rollei Retro80S - my first roll is still in the camera so I can't talk from personal experience, but the sample images I've seen look very interesting, very contrasty. If you have a look on Flickr there are quite a few examples. But as many others have suggested, just buy a range and have fun. Working on my second roll of Rollei Retro80s and it turned out great! My local lab could not find the developing times, etc. for use with his typical developer...Tmax I think. But, he guessed at it and I am happy with it. BTW, anyone got the processing down for Tmax developer on Rollei Retro80s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 27, 2011 Share #27 Posted November 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Massive Development Chart has no suggestions, I'm afraid. This is the suggestion for HC110, though http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?Film=Rollei+Retro+80S&Developer=HC-110&mdc=Search So there are options if you don't use TMax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridland Posted November 27, 2011 Share #28 Posted November 27, 2011 for me the best choice is delta 400 pro developed in ilfotech hc , or kodak hc 110, for most grain trix 400 in the same developer i don't have simpaty abuot the tmax , have some problems with the common fixers , for the most problem of curling film increase the weight during the drying time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted November 27, 2011 Share #29 Posted November 27, 2011 The Massive Development Chart has no suggestions, I'm afraid. This is the suggestion for HC110, though Digitaltruth Photo - The Massive Dev Chart B&W Film Development Database So there are options if you don't use TMax Thanks, Andy. This is an example of using Tmax for developing and his guessing the development times, etc....this rivals the contrast from using TriX 400 in the M3. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/167158-characterful-film/?do=findComment&comment=1855636'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 27, 2011 Share #30 Posted November 27, 2011 Crikey. I have never seen contrast like that in Tri-X Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted November 27, 2011 Share #31 Posted November 27, 2011 Crikey. I have never seen contrast like that in Tri-X This was, granted, one of the extreme examples. Normally, it looked very much like silky smooth TriX. Here is another example: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/167158-characterful-film/?do=findComment&comment=1855644'>More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted November 27, 2011 Share #32 Posted November 27, 2011 I thought Neopan 1600 was withdrawn last year. It was. Neopan 400 has been axed too. Only Acros left. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 27, 2011 Share #33 Posted November 27, 2011 I thought Neopan 1600 was withdrawn last year. Mathers still have some dated the middle of next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted November 27, 2011 Share #34 Posted November 27, 2011 Mathers of Lancashire .... Doh !! Ordered 50 rolls of short dated 135 TMax 100 at £1.99 a roll last Thursday evening. Call on Friday informed me that they only had 46 rolls in stock. No prob. 1 hour later said they only had 6 rolls of short dated stock at £2.99 and the rest would be at the standard price of £3.49 . Did I want to proceed ? At £2.99, not £1.99 ? Yes. So how come my order for 50 films was billed at £109 incl postage ? I have the transaction detail. So, in my book, never trust Mathers !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 27, 2011 Share #35 Posted November 27, 2011 So how come my order for 50 films was billed at £109 incl postage ? I have the transaction detail. Isn't that roughly £2 per roll - pretty much the per roll cost of your original order? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 27, 2011 Share #36 Posted November 27, 2011 So, in my book, never trust Mathers !! I've shopped at Mathers for decades, always been a pleasant experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted November 27, 2011 Share #37 Posted November 27, 2011 Thanks, Andy. This is an example of using Tmax for developing and his guessing the development times, etc....this rivals the contrast from using TriX 400 in the M3. Dave the photo post # 29 is very contrasting , point of view over light / shadow not surprising that the personages are black ! same thing in digital with my M8 or M9 .....no better secondly , it depends on the picture, how it is exposed thirdly, it also depends in part of the scanner Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 27, 2011 Share #38 Posted November 27, 2011 Dave the photo post # 29 is very contrasting , point of view over light / shadownot surprising that the personages are black ! same thing in digital with my M8 or M9 .....no better secondly , it depends on the picture, how it is exposed thirdly, it also depends in part of the scanner More likely it's a result of guessing the development times and over developing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted November 27, 2011 Share #39 Posted November 27, 2011 I tried a roll of Ilford XP2 400 last week and it sure gave a lot of character but it could be the camera (forty year old non-Leica) I have used this film extensively, and I love it. There is some difference of opinion about it here, but it certainly suits me. It produces a long scale negatives, with very smooth middle grays and excellent sharpness. The camera has little to do with it. I think that film has properties - but character? Not so very much. 99% of the "character" of a picture is in the minds eye at the moment of exposure. The character in my pictures (if there is any) comes from me. Whether I use Tri-x, XP2 or whatever, I think doesn't much matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted November 27, 2011 Share #40 Posted November 27, 2011 Tri-X No question Try Portra 400 for a colour film. Agreed on the Tri-X recommendation. Tri-X is unbeatable as an all-around B&W film. JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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