macusque Posted February 19, 2007 Share #1  Posted February 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I switched from Canon to Leica (M8 and DMR) and I'm very pleased with the results so far. Mainly due to the wonderful Leitz glass, but both sensors are amazing and make these lenses really shine.  I shot these for a friend of mine who's an architect. He needs them to show his work (interior design this time) to a possible client. I used the M8 only for the handheld shots (portraits and some quick closeups) and the DMR on tripod for the architectural ones.  Lenses used: Summicron 28 on the M8; Elmarit 19, PC-Superangulon 28 and 100 Apo-Macro Elmarit on the DMR.  The 28 PC is great, with its ability (as all PC-lenses) to shoot 9 frames shifted to get a woppy 25 Mp file with an horizontal fov of about 26mm effective and a nice 4:3 format. The nice thing in the Superangulon is that it has click stops at any 45° instead of 90°, making the 9 frames easier. From experience the 28 Superangulon is better than the Canon 24 TS-E (visibly) and 45 TS-E (much less color fringe).  The Elmarit 19 is amazing. It's sharper than the 28 shifted hence it's even better if you don't need all the 25 Mp or if the subject moves.  I used the 100 Apo-Macro only for a couple of tighter framings, absolutely love this lens. Sharpness, colors and bokeh out of this world.  The Summicron-M 28 is great also, I like it's bokeh despite the short focal lenght and for "environmental portraits" it is really nice.  As for the cameras, both are truly excellent and share the same fingerprint with these lenses. I love the DMR and its ergonomics, which to me is better than that of the Eos-1Ds. More straightforward operations also, like mirror-lockup and setting aperture and speeds the old way. I have to say that while I'm more an SLR guy, the M8 always amazes me because the system is really light and small, nonetheless it produces stunning files, like its bigger/fatter sister  1. DMR - 19 Elmarit (different exposures blended in PS) 2. DMR - 19 Elmarit 3. DMR - 28 PC (9 images stitched) 4. M8 - 28 Summicron Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16700-dmr-and-m8-together/?do=findComment&comment=176960'>More sharing options...
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macusque Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share #2  Posted February 19, 2007 1. DMR - 19 Elmarit 2. DMR - 19 Elmarit 3. DMR - 100 Apo-Macro Elmarit 4. M8 - 28 Summicron Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16700-dmr-and-m8-together/?do=findComment&comment=176967'>More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 19, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted February 19, 2007 Marco, these are great. I love the stiched shot, too; I bet it looks great in a print! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberth Posted February 20, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted February 20, 2007 fantastic photos and you show yo have a great grasp of photography and your equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share #5 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Thank you Jamie and Robert ! Â Indeed the downsized jpeg doesn't do justice to the quality of the stitched image. Sharpness is better than that of the 19 Elmarit but not so much considering the more than double pixel counts, I guess because the 28 PC shifted is not up to the 19. But it's the tonal rendition and "spatiality" (sorry, I can't find a better term to describe it) that resembles that of a LF camera (!) I recall similar impression when I stitched some images on my 1Ds and 90 TSE and I guess it's because you gain not only pixels but also lens' resolution. Indeed it's not like shooting with a wider lens on a more Mp camera, but sort of shooting with a wider lens with 2x resolution on 2x Mp camera with 2x sensor area... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminw Posted February 20, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Great pictures and so it so it seems a fantastic combination of equipments . Well done on some inspiring and Pro images. No doubt your friend the architect is pleased with the outcome ... Armin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnelson Posted February 20, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Great... just when I thought I did not need another R lens now I see this... Â There is something with this stitching concept and it is especially nice with the PC lens. Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted February 20, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 20, 2007 nice work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 20, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Marco great stuff and the stitch tuff is a nice touch. I have the Olympus 24 shift that i converted to the leica R mount and it really is a wonderfull tool to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 20, 2007 Share #10  Posted February 20, 2007 Great... just when I thought I did not need another R lens now I see this... There is something with this stitching concept and it is especially nice with the PC lens.  Bill  Yeah, I thought I was done too But at least it's not a core need; I don't think I could use the stiching at a wedding (but a PC lens would be great for other reasons!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 20, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Marco, what a stunning place, and the pictures capture it very well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share #12 Â Posted February 20, 2007 Thank you all guys for the nice words. Â I always loved architecture (my brother is an architect too) along with landscape and nature and shift lenses are great for many things in these types of photography. I wish Leica did some more PC lenses, even if the 28 PC is actually a Schneider design. Tilting would be great also, the 90 TSE is probably the only Canon lens I miss. Â Carsten, the place is actually a butcher shop... ! Yes, we italians spend so much in foods that even a good butcher could make a small fortune rather easily. It has two rooms, the usual one with all the meat and cheese in the big counter and this one which was totally redesigned and it's a "tasting room" for wines, cheese, cold meat, etc. The best part was that before the shooting we were delighted with some great food made there Now, with the new design, the room more than a butcher shop resembles a new beautiful modern hotel in Barcelona where I stayed last summer! Â Anyway the butcher's clients seem to like it vey much, despite being in a lost place up in the mountains where they usually don't even know what "architecture" is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminw Posted February 21, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Marco - I had to come back to your Thread and look at the pictures again, because they are very well done and I needed to have some inspiration . I client of mine wanted to have his salon photographed and I wanted to use My M8 for it. Did you use just natural light with your images or some flash ? Â Thanks for getting back with some background info on the lighting .. Â Cheers Armin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share #14  Posted February 21, 2007 Hi Armin,  I'm not very good with flash and lighting, Guy is the king for that stuff  I used only available light, natural from a couple of windows and the entrance door, but mostly indoor artificial lights.  I have to say that my friend did a great job in designing the shop's lighting and it reflected in the images without any additional work from me. The great dynamic range of both cameras did the rest  I only needed to shoot Raw and also bracket for some blending in PS for the entrance door, plus some additional work in PS on selective color balance because of the different color temperatures depending on the natural/artificial illumination.  Ciao ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminw Posted February 21, 2007 Share #15 Â Posted February 21, 2007 Thanks for the info ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted February 22, 2007 Share #16 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Very well done Marco. You have shown the excellence of your photographic skill, and the artistry of the architect in these images. The quality of the Leica system also shows through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share #17 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Thank you Robert ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrj Posted February 22, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted February 22, 2007 nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_b_elmer Posted February 22, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted February 22, 2007 Great photos, thank you very much for sharing with us. Macusque, how do you stitch, as you call it - can you unite the 9 photos in one file in Photoshop? Now we will all start looking for a 28 PC lens, just as we thought we had all necessary lenses for our R-outfit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share #20  Posted February 22, 2007 Michael,  stitching images taken with a PC lens is a breeze in latest versions of Photoshop. Go to File -> Automate -> Photomerge and select the images you want to stitch, then let Photoshop do the work.  You only need to be careful with exposure and framing: use a tripod, calculate the exposure with the lens on axis, shoot and then in manual shoot with the same settings all the other 8 shifted images. Shoot in Raw so that later you can assign the correct white balance to all images. If you take care of developping even images as far as exposure and white balance, Photomerge will stitch them without any sign of seam. Much easier and with more consistent results than stitching with non-PC lenses.  For the 9 images stitching you'll end with an image that lacks the corners, so you need to crop it quite a bit. Example below.  Ciao Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16700-dmr-and-m8-together/?do=findComment&comment=179315'>More sharing options...
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