zeleny Posted November 10, 2011 Share #1 Posted November 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) While gloating over the contrast of instant gratification afforded by a digital SLR with the anxieties of exposing film in my old M Threes through Sixes of blessed memories, I saw that what looks like the IR filter on my S2P number 3832104 has developed a crack at the upper left corner. I understand this failure to be common with the M9. I am very careful with this camera and certain of it not having suffered any bumps. I have contacted Leica and will report their response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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digitalpowershot Posted November 10, 2011 Share #2 Posted November 10, 2011 While gloating over the contrast of instant gratification afforded by a digital SLR with the anxieties of exposing film in my old M Threes through Sixes of blessed memories, I saw that what looks like the IR filter on my S2P number 3832104 has developed a crack at the upper left corner. I understand this failure to be common with the M9. I am very careful with this camera and certain of it not having suffered any bumps. I have contacted Leica and will report their response. OMG! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted November 10, 2011 Share #3 Posted November 10, 2011 If you look at your 2nd shot you will see that this isn't actually a crack but what you see is a wire that seems have got out of place and is lying over the corner of the sensor. You can see the 2 strands and it disappearing under the edges of the chamber. just needs moving out of the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeleny Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted November 10, 2011 It's a crack alright, running all the way down. Oh well, I needed an excuse to order a Red Scarlet for my backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted November 10, 2011 Share #5 Posted November 10, 2011 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I can see what looks like a 2 stranded black wire that goes across the top left corner of the sensor and disappears under the edges of the chamber. Have you tried moving it out of the way with a sensor swab or something similar. Or is there something else I can't see. Obviously you have the camera and I am just looking on the net so I could easily be wrong. Not right either way Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I can see what looks like a 2 stranded black wire that goes across the top left corner of the sensor and disappears under the edges of the chamber. Have you tried moving it out of the way with a sensor swab or something similar. Or is there something else I can't see. Obviously you have the camera and I am just looking on the net so I could easily be wrong. Not right either way ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/165997-my-s2p-cracks-its-ir-filter/?do=findComment&comment=1839965'>More sharing options...
mjh Posted November 10, 2011 Share #6 Posted November 10, 2011 It certainly looks like a crack. The two ‘strands’ you see would be the same crack but at the top and bottom side of the cover glas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2011 Share #7 Posted November 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's a crack for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2011 Share #8 Posted November 10, 2011 How come the crack is longer than the dimensions of the sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted November 10, 2011 Share #9 Posted November 10, 2011 looking at it closer I can now see that it may well be a crack and maybe it is in the IR filter that looks like it maybe separate from the sensor or just larger than the sensor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted November 10, 2011 Share #10 Posted November 10, 2011 How come the crack is longer than the dimensions of the sensor? Because it isn’t the silicon that did crack, but the cover glass. The sensor assembly is bigger than the sensor chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tansey Posted November 10, 2011 Share #11 Posted November 10, 2011 I have an S2P. I had this issue last year. I called Leica in New Jersey. They sent a loaner overnight, and they fixed the problem. Please contact Sarah Mayville at Leica New Jersey, and your problem will be taken care of. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted November 10, 2011 Share #12 Posted November 10, 2011 The issue of cracked cover glass (always in the corner, at an angle) affected both the M9 and the S2. These are both Kodak sensors made in the same fab. There was a bad batch of glass that was used in both sensors last year. Unfortunately, the cracks would never show during QC in the factory (Kodak's or Leica's). Usually, quite some time went by before some stressor created the tipping point and the crack manifested. This could be vibration, temperature change or a small bump - nothing that would ordinarily cause any harm if there wasn't an imperfection in the glass itself. As Scott accurately said, Leica will just replace your sensor. Since you have an S2P, you will get a loaner camera while yours is being serviced. I'd also suggest that if you have a first generation OLED top screen, to get it replaced with the new one while it is visiting Solms. The new style screen has a bluish tint to it and is clearly visible in daylight. Hope this helps. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 10, 2011 Share #13 Posted November 10, 2011 I'd be more worried if that was a wire, as it should be connected to something! How annoying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeleny Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted November 10, 2011 According to Kelsey Fain, my S2P needs to be shipped to Germany for repair. He says that Leica is sending out a loaner S2P today, due to arrive tomorrow with a return label for my camera, which will be sent to Germany as a high priority item. I am very pleased with this service, but remain concerned about long-term reliability prospects of this device. Owning and carrying spare M bodies, as was my custom in the last century, has no practical counterpart in the S system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 10, 2011 Share #15 Posted November 10, 2011 To be fair, I don't think that there have been any recent M9 cracks reported so it seems that the cause was found and rectified. If you rely on your camera then you always need a spare body, regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeleny Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted November 10, 2011 To be fair, I don't think that there have been any recent M9 cracks reported so it seems that the cause was found and rectified. If you rely on your camera then you always need a spare body, regardless.I'd rather keep paying to extend the S2P warranty in perpetuity. My spare body will be a Red Scarlet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted November 11, 2011 Share #17 Posted November 11, 2011 If that's a crack, I'll eat my reading glasses! (Not) LOL Sure looks like wire to me. Goes beyond the bezel...into the seam, I even see a faint 'halo' on the glass.But then again... David, naybe you can clarify? regardless, I DID have the crack on my M9 and Leica rebuilt the camera like new! Not to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted November 11, 2011 Share #18 Posted November 11, 2011 If that's a crack, I'll eat my reading glasses! (Not) LOL Sure looks like wire to me. Goes beyond the bezel...into the seam, I even see a faint 'halo' on the glass.But then again... David, naybe you can clarify? regardless, I DID have the crack on my M9 and Leica rebuilt the camera like new! Not to worry. It's definitely cracked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi4 Posted November 11, 2011 Share #19 Posted November 11, 2011 James Yes, there have been recent cracked M9 sensor cover glass reports, and to my dismay series numbers right around my own M9's. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/133186-cracked-sensor-serial-numbers-only-3.html maurice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 11, 2011 Share #20 Posted November 11, 2011 It certainly looks like a crack. The two ‘strands’ you see would be the same crack but at the top and bottom side of the cover glas. This is crazy. It's a two line wire. One of the pictures is OOF. Look at the other one. Well, it's worth a bet. One Guinness says it is a wire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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