Ivar B Posted September 27, 2011 Share #1 Posted September 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I ordered the new Lux 35 from my dealer Meister in Hamburg. He could not give a definite delivery date - but it just landed on my door after a 3 week wait. Either I have been lucky, or the delivery situation is improving. I wonder why people pay 1000 Euros above list if 3 weeks is all it takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bbbonthemoon Posted September 27, 2011 Share #2 Posted September 27, 2011 well, when I wanted to order the lens at my local dealer, they told me they already got 12 back orders for the lens and cannot see me receiving it in any near future. So i had to buy second hand. Seems like it depends on the dealer, the lens is on very high demand and you need to find one with short queue of back orders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted September 27, 2011 Share #3 Posted September 27, 2011 Hi Ivar. I understand that the deliveries have restarted in the Antipodes also. I think the key is to have an order in place with a good dealer where you have a relationship and track record. I got mine after a couple of weeks in July last year then there was a drought after our initial trickle. People are reporting deliveries again now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted September 27, 2011 Hi Ivar. I understand that the deliveries have restarted in the Antipodes also. I think the key is to have an order in place with a good dealer where you have a relationship and track record. I got mine after a couple of weeks in July last year then there was a drought after our initial trickle. People are reporting deliveries again now. You may be right. I have used Meister for 25 years and the regular customers may get preferential treatment. Look forward to trying the lens out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 27, 2011 Share #5 Posted September 27, 2011 You may be right. I have used Meister for 25 years and the regular customers may get preferential treatment. Look forward to trying the lens out! As a matter of interest did you place deposit or just placed order/paid upfront? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtaylor Posted September 27, 2011 Share #6 Posted September 27, 2011 I have been waiting 15 months with a significant deposit for m a large dealer who has always come through for me in the past. I have been no. 2 on the list for 3 months. Hopefully soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted September 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) As a matter of interest did you place deposit or just placed order/paid upfront? I actually paid the full purchasing price when I ordered. This was my own suggestion, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 27, 2011 Share #8 Posted September 27, 2011 I actually paid the full purchasing price when I ordered. This was my own suggestion, Money talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotolebrocq Posted September 28, 2011 Share #9 Posted September 28, 2011 I have been waiting for more than six months so I decided (based on another thread here) to get the new 35mm 1.2 Nokton as a temporary lens. Shock horror, I am so impressed with the IQ of this lens that it is definitely a keeper for me - I have now cancelled my FLE order. May be worth trying if you dont mind a 'foreign' lens on your M. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted September 28, 2011 Share #10 Posted September 28, 2011 I'd say you've been extremely lucky, and if you were in the UK you'd still be waiting - I was told "at least a year" by a large London dealer, while a large dealer elsewhere said he was yet to receive even one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 28, 2011 Share #11 Posted September 28, 2011 I'd say you've been extremely lucky, and if you were in the UK you'd still be waiting. There are always exceptions. I waited a week in July to get a 35 FLE from my London dealer. No deposit but I have been buying stuff from this dealer for many years (including during the period when stock sat on shelves and you could buy a mint Noctilux for £1000). In my experience some of the dealer lists are 'flexible' and operate more on a 'favoured customer' than on a 'first-come, first-served' basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 30, 2011 Share #12 Posted September 30, 2011 There are always exceptions. I waited a week in July to get a 35 FLE from my London dealer. No deposit but I have been buying stuff from this dealer for many years (including during the period when stock sat on shelves and you could buy a mint Noctilux for £1000). In my experience some of the dealer lists are 'flexible' and operate more on a 'favoured customer' than on a 'first-come, first-served' basis. I imagine this is entirely true. I am waiting for one dealer in the US (I have bought two lenses from him) and one in Germany (a camera and a lens from them). I am also waiting for a local dealer I haven't bought anything from yet, but would like to support. I lodged my order in June. WIll see - I'm happy having the funds in my bank account, and I'm not suffering for the wait. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted September 30, 2011 Share #13 Posted September 30, 2011 I have been waiting for more than six months so I decided (based on another thread here) to get the new 35mm 1.2 Nokton as a temporary lens. Shock horror, I am so impressed with the IQ of this lens that it is definitely a keeper for me - I have now cancelled my FLE order. May be worth trying if you dont mind a 'foreign' lens on your M. Tony Did you get a chance to do any comparisons? Got any samples for us? I may order one and keep the one I like the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esophoria Posted September 30, 2011 Share #14 Posted September 30, 2011 I gave up waiting for the lens...and just purchased the Voightlander, 35/1.4-- excellent reviews, significantly cheaper and readily available. The lens is due at my front door tomorrow. Yes, I do realize that it is not Leica quality-- but the old adage....life's too short to wait for great lenses...shoot now and ponder later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlep Posted September 30, 2011 Share #15 Posted September 30, 2011 I gave up waiting for the lens...and just purchased the Voightlander, 35/1.4-- excellent reviews, significantly cheaper and readily available. The lens is due at my front door tomorrow. Yes, I do realize that it is not Leica quality-- but the old adage....life's too short to wait for great lenses...shoot now and ponder later. Prepare to be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted September 30, 2011 Share #16 Posted September 30, 2011 You won't be disappointed.... M9 Nokton 35 1.2 V2 800 ASA at f/ 1.2 1/90 sec sorry, you ordered a 1.4, don't know anything about it....but the new 1.2 ..wow Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/162836-waiting-time-1435-fle/?do=findComment&comment=1806791'>More sharing options...
treeplanter Posted October 1, 2011 Share #17 Posted October 1, 2011 I'm disappointed, the highlights are totally washed out. Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
horosu Posted October 1, 2011 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2011 That's the M9 not the lens, if I may say so I'm disappointed, the highlights are totally washed out. Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotolebrocq Posted October 1, 2011 Share #19 Posted October 1, 2011 Did you get a chance to do any comparisons? Got any samples for us? I may order one and keep the one I like the best. For comparisons you can see this http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/198874-new-cv-35-1-2-m9.html and this long thread http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110011 Neither of these threads is totally convincing but there was enough there to prompt me to try the lens. The day after it arrived (from Robert White) I did a shoot for a blues band here in Crete for their new posters using the 50mm Summilux asph and this new 35mm 1.2 Nokton. Apart from initial testing this was the first time I used the lens in anger and it was these images (which are very like the 50 summilux) that convinced me to keep it. I am not a reviewer, which is best left to others, but it is without doubt a very competent lens - there are some pictures from this session that could be either lens and I need to check the exif to be sure. I would be surprised if the Nokton is 'better' than the FLE but if you are fed up with waiting you may want to try it. At least you will be getting some pictures while you wait and if like me you have been used to the 35 summicron asph I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&A Posted October 1, 2011 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2011 I had a chance to do quite of bit of simultanious testing of the FLE lens along side two samples of the 35mm f1.2 Ver II lens. I don't have the images at my present location but here are my observations...all done with the M9. Keep in mind my assesment is based on examining files at 100% (pixel peeping). At closer camera to subject distances, in the central part of the image, the 35mm f1.2 V. II was phenominal. Excellent at f1.2 and by f1.4 (where contrast and resolution makes a noticable jump), this lens could be considered both an near equal and a strong contender to the FLE. This is especially true at closer subject to camera distances. The outer zones at these closer focusing distances weren't near as strong as the FLE but were very good. There was more barrel distortion with the 35mm f1.2 II than the FLE and this could be reasily seen. At longer midrange distances and beyond (to infinity), things change to a significant degree. The FLE lens in the outer zones at f1.4 -f4.5 is amazingly sharp..maybe not quite as much resolution as the center of the frame..but it is good and keeps improving as one stops down. The 35mm f1.2 in contrast exhibits a lot of field curvature, which is very noticable at mid to long and long distances. This causes the outer zones of an images to remain relatively soft compared to the center, even when shooting at f4.5 and beyond. What can be seen (due to this curvature) is the very forgrounds of these longer distance shots, in the outer zones are sharp, instead of the outer zones in the distance, where the camera is set to focus on. Therefore edge to edge sharpness at long distances landscapes and subjects, maybe not be entirely possible unlesss one stops "well" down to beyond f5.6. Again this is seen at 100% crops and may not be relavent for many kinds of shooting and subjects. Whether these two samples are representitive of all samples, I honestly can't say. Also if one is not pixel peeping on these longer distance shots or subject matter doesn't lend itself to needing resolution in the outer zones as say compared to the center of the image...the lens/image will be fine. It all depends on ones requirements. Interestingly I noticed this exact same "curvature" phenominon (as described above) in a Pentax AF medium format 35mm f2.8 lens (the FA 35mm f2.8). Guess is's a certain type of optical design where emphasis is placed on extreme resolution in the central zone of an image...but where as the camera to subject distance increases (mid distance to infinity shots)...the outer zone sufferes due to excessive field curvature introduced. Other than that the VC 35mm f1.2 II lens is impressive. I left discussion of OOF areas and bokeh out of this discussion (for the time being). Dave (D&A) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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