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For me it would depend totally on what films I would use and whether I would develop them myself or use C41-films and bring them to the lab. If I would have a darkroom still I'd say M7, a bit heavier, but fast and above all: aperture and time wheels are going in the same direction, very important for me. But if I'd choose mainly Xp2 or the Kodak C41 B&W to work with I'd certainly choose the M4 because you can throw with it ;) ; the M6 and its variations are a bit more vulnerable

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Hi,

 

Just wanted to close the thread by saying that I actually bought an M2 about 2 months ago, "to start with", and also got very recently (as a birthday present) an M7. I did a few rolls with the M2 - either carrying a meter or using the M9 to meter - and I'm really happy with the results, plus it's such a robust and sexy camera to carry. I have yet to see the first roll with the M7.

 

Starting now to discover the different character of available films and enjoying the experience!

 

Thanks again for all the replies and comments.

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I have five M4's for backup.

 

Really? How do you carry them?

 

LOL! Thanks. You made my day. The best I've done w/o a bag is to carry three - one around the neck (usually 35mm lens), tight over a shoulder (75mm) and a CL with 15mm on a belt clip. But five? I'd look like a Teutonic Christmas tree. Leica could sue me for defamation!

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Really? How do you carry them? ;)

 

There's often talk about how the M3 lacks framelines for wider than 50mm lenses and needs goggles, but is this really such a problem? How much do the goggles reduce the VF magnification? Can't be by much. Somewhere I've read complaints about goggled lenses being bulkier or heavier than those without. But for me, coming from an SLR background, a weight difference of some 50-100gr isn't something to worry about when choosing which M to get. Plus I guess it is possible to use non-goggled 35mm lenses with M3s too. The lack of meter is also not a big deal. Sure some shots turn out under- or over-exposed. But learning to use Sunny 16 is actually a lot easier than one may think and produces great results in most circumstances.

 

For me, fwiw, there was simply no other M to get but the M3.

 

Cheers

Philip

 

Okay we get it, you're totally in love with your camera. That's great. How many rolls per week are you shooting with it? How often do you use a 28mm lens with your M3? How often do you use a 35mm lens? Would the M3 still be your ultimate girlfriend if you shot 10 to 20 rolls per week with a 35mm and your lens of choice didn't have goggles? I mean you can use a screwdriver to start a car, but why would you if a key was readily available.

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Check out the Overview of the M System I just posted a short time ago - might help in the decision making process. It was born of the need for a concise "what's new" kind of list of the M bodies... I basically compiled info from the web, books, etc. with pictures of each. Hope it helps!

 

It really comes down to the features you want/need. They're all pretty good. ;)

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But no 35mm framelines. That might be a point of concern.

 

The M3 has the finest viewfinder of all the M bodies, beautifully bright and precise. Because it is almost a 100% viewfinder, you can put a 50, 90 or 135 lens on it and compose with the right eye while keeping the left eye open. That is a most interesting experience. Yes, it lacks the 35mm frameline; one big reason the M2 was made. I own and use an M2 as I use a 35 objective often, but the lens I use most with it is one with the M3 eyes. The reason is that I wear glasses and can see the 35 frame lines better on the M2. Conclusion is: you need to find the camera that fits you. No one camera is perfect for everyone.

 

I also have a M6 Classic that I have enjoyed since the early 90's and love the meter. The TTL version is a bit improved and would be preferred were I buying today. I don't have the frame line problem with it as the viewfinder magnification is lower than the M2, but it is very difficult for me to see the 28 frame lines because of my glasses, which is why I don't own a 28 M lens.

 

Have never used an M7, but from the comments here, I think that would be your best choice to match with the M9.

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But no 35mm framelines. That might be a point of concern.

 

The M3 has the finest viewfinder of all the M bodies, beautifully bright and precise. Because it is almost a 100% viewfinder, you can put a 50, 90 or 135 lens on it and compose with the right eye while keeping the left eye open. That is a most interesting experience. Yes, it lacks the 35mm frameline; one big reason the M2 was made. I own and use an M2 as I use a 35 objective often, but the lens I use most with it is one with the M3 eyes. The reason is that I wear glasses and can see the 35 frame lines better on the M2. Conclusion is: you need to find the camera that fits you. No one camera is perfect for everyone.

 

I also have a M6 Classic that I have enjoyed since the early 90's and love the meter. The TTL version is a bit improved and would be preferred were I buying today. I don't have the frame line problem with it as the viewfinder magnification is lower than the M2, but it is very difficult for me to see the 28 frame lines because of my glasses, which is why I don't own a 28 M lens.

 

Have never used an M7, but from the comments here, I think that would be your best choice to match with the M9.

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