mitchell Posted July 15, 2006 Share #1 Posted July 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there anyone with experience with the new Intel Apple laptops? I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling, and need to download my DMR photos. Have the early kinks been worked out. Has anyone seen the new glossy display? Is it the better choice? Any recommendations for Ram, etc. Thanks, Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest menze_as Posted July 15, 2006 Share #2 Posted July 15, 2006 Hi Mitchell, according to a big Mac forum the new Intel Macbook Pro and Macbooks have many technical defects by now. They are loud, they get very hot, and the shell often lacks reliable workmanship. And software sometimes doesn't work sufficiently with Rosetta. I would wait till the next generation comes out which will, hopingly, be free of defects. It is, as I see it, not really a good idea to buy a completely new generation. Concerning the display: you should test this out by yourself. Some like the new shimmering display, some don't. Regards, Astrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 15, 2006 Share #3 Posted July 15, 2006 I love my Macs, but as with many things in life, I would never buy a first generation one. Same goes for cars, TVs, cameras, washing machines - you name it, let someone else buy the buggy one, then pick one up a year later when Gen II arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted July 15, 2006 Thanks Astrid and Andy. Sounds like good advice. I remembered as well that Photoshop is not yet native on the new intels. Does anyone know when Photoshop will be? I'm not sure what the solution is to my situation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 15, 2006 Share #5 Posted July 15, 2006 Next Spring is when the new PS etc is supposed to arrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smep Posted July 15, 2006 Share #6 Posted July 15, 2006 I love my Macs, but as with many things in life, I would never buy a first generation one. Same goes for cars, TVs, cameras, washing machines - you name it, let someone else buy the buggy one, then pick one up a year later when Gen II arrives. What about the first generation of a digital M... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderM Posted July 15, 2006 Share #7 Posted July 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Mitchell, you can try to get one of the last version (Oct. 2005) of the "old" powerbook G4 with 15" or 17" (or ibook) - depends what you need on power and dimension! The display with 1440x900 pix is superb, the PB G4 is very quiet and handsome. Battery lasts about 4 hours if you use office. With 2 GB of RAM OS X is your best friend for almost everything! OR wait for a new version of the macbook (pro) with appropriate software. perhaps, this is helpful http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ greetings, Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted July 15, 2006 Share #8 Posted July 15, 2006 What does Rosetta do? Do you have a link to that forum? Every time Apple comes out with a new model (let alone a new generation) there is a group of people who find errors. I know the heat problem was up on the Pro when that came out - and was handled in those instances, it occured (not on all machines). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regista Posted July 15, 2006 Share #9 Posted July 15, 2006 Astrid, I own a black MacBook and it works fine with all my photo apps. However, my pro photo friends and industry peers all have MacBook Pros. They prefer it mainly because it has 256 MB of dedicated VRAM (memory for graphics), whereas the MacBook has only 64 MBs shared with the system (depending on system load, it'll still yield up to 256 MB effective as well). All the stories you read about product deficiencies may be true to a certain extent. Happens to all makes. Sony, Dell, HP. All of them. Haven't you read about a Dell laptop bursting into flames? I am a director of technology working in the communications and media industry in the NYC area and am exposed to scores of industry peers who own MacBooks and MacBook Pros. To this day, I still haven't heard or met anyone who has had any of these issues. Au contraire, everyone I've spoken to about their MacBook Pros love them. As to my own MacBook, it doesn't get hot to the touch even after prolonged and intensive use. In fact, I've only heard the fan turn on a couple of times while editing video and burning DVDs. My 2¢ worth... cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 15, 2006 Share #10 Posted July 15, 2006 What about the first generation of a digital M... If I had the money, I'd gladly let someone else beta test it for a year, then, maybe, buy. I most definitely would not put $500 down now for an un-announced piece if Gen I kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderM Posted July 15, 2006 Share #11 Posted July 15, 2006 Hi overgaardcom, shortly, Rosetta is an emulation to run mac-programs (originally only for power-pc (ppc) on an intel-based platform. Till now, only Mac OS X itself and some other application are compatible as a "universal" version. Soon, programs are written in an appropriate version to run on intel based platform without an emulation. have a look at http://www.apple.com/rosetta/ btw, rosetta is also a famous program for learning languages greetings, Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted July 15, 2006 Share #12 Posted July 15, 2006 Next Spring is when the new PS etc is supposed to arrive. Which means next spring is probably a good time to jump on the MacIntel band wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regista Posted July 15, 2006 Share #13 Posted July 15, 2006 BTW... the "revised" MacBook Pros will incorporate the much awaited Intel Core 2 Duo processors, which will operate at half the power needed by the current Core Duo processors. Faster. Cooler. Longer. You may want to wait for that, Mitchell. And the wait may not be that long, either. Maybe as short as one month! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etanguero Posted July 15, 2006 Share #14 Posted July 15, 2006 BTW... the "revised" MacBook Pros will incorporate the much awaited Intel Core 2 Duo processors, which will operate at half the power needed by the current Core Duo processors. Faster. Cooler. Longer. You may want to wait for that, Mitchell. And the wait may not be that long, either. Maybe as short as one month! great info, again. thanks!!! eT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 15, 2006 Share #15 Posted July 15, 2006 I have a MacBook, it can run hot if placed on a surface other than say a desk (I'm thinking of something like a carpet or a hotel bed). I downloaded the trial version of Photoshop CS2 and that runs like a dog. I'm going to wait until next year and try the universal binary version. At the moment I have a copy of Elements 4 which will probably do until then. To be blunt, I don't see the quantam leap that I was expecting in a move from XP. Apple remind me a bit of Sony in the 80s/90s, good design and great marketing, but not really that much better, if at all, that the alternatives. The Bang and Olufson of the PC world if you like. the MacBook display is better than my Acer XP laptop, but still suffers from colour/contrast shift if the angle of view is changed. It's true that the virus situation is better ith the Mac, but I'd guess that the stability is about the same. There have been a couple of occasions over the last couple of months where I've had to reboot the back. So overall, a decent machine but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etanguero Posted July 15, 2006 Share #16 Posted July 15, 2006 so with the soon to come MacBookPro Intel Core 2 Duo only one thing is still (painfully) missing: the tablet feature!!! for me this was (and still is) the 'killer feature' to get myself a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC 2 1/2 years ago: 1440*1050 pixels, crisp sharp on 12" ... paired together with the pen (what's a 'mouse'? ) it is still the optimal solution. but I fear that apple will let us wait (too) much time on this feature. eT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleeson Posted July 15, 2006 Share #17 Posted July 15, 2006 Contrary to several replies above, I've had a MacBook for several months without any problems. The screen is great, it runs quietly, has excellent battery life, is light and portable, improved keyboard. I work in a medical environment and have to run Windows also, and the dual OS feature alone was reason to get one - it's the fastest XP and OSX computer in the office. Certain apps are not yet compiled to run on the Intel chip, most notably Microsoft Office and Adobe PS, these use the Rosetta feature and don't run as fast as the native Apple programs. I'd highly recommend it, but would get 2GB of Ram for it (not from Apple), and to run Windows, you need to download BootCamp from Apple and buy a full install XP (with Service Pack 2) disc. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 15, 2006 Share #18 Posted July 15, 2006 Christian I guess it depends what you are wanting to use the machine for. For photo work, then yes the tablet approach would be better, but for text/data entry I personally think that the keyboard approach is better. Certainly I can type faster that I can imput via handwriting recognintion on my Poacket PC. As for connecting to the work AS/400, give me a keyboard every time :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick123 Posted July 15, 2006 Share #19 Posted July 15, 2006 Hi everyone! This forum has been a tremendous resource for me and I hope I may be of some assistance. I am the proud owner of a Leica M6 and D-Lux 2, as well as a 17" MacBook Pro. I have to say my MacBook Pro has been nothing short of wonderful over the past 2 months! It is lightning fast, quiet, and does not get hot. Aesthetically, it looks great on my desk right next to my Leicas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucemcl Posted July 15, 2006 Share #20 Posted July 15, 2006 I am going to be a bit of a contrarion here and suggest a MacBook Pro with 2MB of RAM. The better video of the Pro and the maximum memory will make a difference to most photographers. The flat vs. glossy screen is mostly a matter of personal preference, get whatever one you like best. I'd worry about glare from the glossy screens, but that's just me. Apple recently revised the motherboards on the MacBook Pro, so this is not exactly a generation 1 unit. I have several clients running MacBook Pros and nobody has any complaints. Although Photoshop does not run native, if you mostly need to download and catalog your photos there are several native programs available, including iPhoto, Aperture, and I believe Lightroom (still in beta). As far as 1.0 products, Apple has a mixed record. The first PowerPC desktop Macs were very good, and the second series, the 7200, were horrible. Then again the first Power PC laptops were horrible, so Apple is not consistent. At any rate, all of the Intel Macs I have worked on have run very well. The tech support forums that I sometimes visit have a generally good opinion of the Intel Macs. Others have brought up some valid points but if you need a machine and will get good use out of it for the next six months or so than I'd say go for it. Apple has Intel servers and tower computers to introduce. It may take them awhile to do a major refresh of the laptop line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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