Waldo Posted August 25, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear All, I am seeking suggestions, please, for yellow, red and polariser filters when using BW film (FP4, HP5, Neopan 400 and Delta 3200) on M6 TTL and M7 using the following lenses: - Super Heliar 15mm and Elmarit 24mm ASPH, for landscapes, often vineyards (my day job being a wine writer specialising in organic and biodynamic wine). - 35mm Lux ASPH and 75mm Cron ASPH mainly for portraits, often in low light (in and around wineries) I would like to do more landscape/vineyard shots using the two widest lenses mentioned above and feel that filters might add some drama. Which FILTER BRANDS are the best in terms of quality in your view, please? Many thanks Waldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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too old to care Posted August 25, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 25, 2011 Most of my filters are either B&W or Hoya. Some of them are decades old and still look like new. However, Schillers' in Saint Louis has also recommended Promaster. I have a couple of them and they seem ok too. Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted August 25, 2011 Dear Wayne, Many thanks for your post. I have already checked out Schneider's website re B&W. The fact that their filters are made in Germany reassures me! Waldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdemas Posted August 25, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 25, 2011 Heliopans are excellent as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 25, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 25, 2011 I always used multicoated B+W - note it's B+W not B&W. B&W are a UK based manufacturer of hifi equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted August 25, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2011 You may want to add a green filter, which may help with foliage tones. On my MP I use B+W and Heliopan (both Germany manufactured), mainly red, orange, green & uv. Dealers stocks of both in some sizes can be erratic, try Morco, Teamwork or Robert White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Since you are new, read up on how filter work and how they might valuable to you. Just adding a filter will not produce a "dramatic effect" to your liking. I would suggest you use a roll of color like Portra 160 and use some of the greyscale conversions in Adobe ACR. In the third tab, check convert to greyscale, and then move the color sliders. You can increase luminesence and saturation in all six additive and subtractive colors and get exactly the same result as in camera filtration except you can change it after the fact. If you like green lightened as with a green filter, then buy a green filter. Or continue with converted color. I am sure there are other programs that do this, but I am familiar with this. Filtration use has become complicated because of all the different sizes of new lenses. Years ago they were all 39 mm or 48. I would suggest a polaroid would be most valuable , not because you can darken skies with it, but because it can eliminate reflections off non metalic surfaces such as leaves. This effect can not be duplicated in post processing easily. I think you have been given good advice on filter brands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted August 25, 2011 Dear Tobey Thanks for the advice, especially re polaroid/leaves. It's not always possible to be in and around vineyards under perfect light, especially when also having to taste wine with growers and winemakers. Waldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 26, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 26, 2011 A deep green filter to lighten foliage. Red filters add a great deal of contrast and with my lenses they are sharpness killers - I hate 'em. Yellow, k2 couldn't hurt B+W filters all the way Where I live, in a hazy river valley, the best filter is orange. But that's not likely your situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randle P. McMurphy Posted August 26, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 26, 2011 http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/pdf/filter/bw_filter_programm_e.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
click Posted August 28, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 28, 2011 Just so you know, I bought some B+W filters recently from a well known dealer and they were fakes. When compared to my real filters there were obvious differences such as heft, "made in Germany" wasn't printed on the side and my hoods did not easily fit over them. I can almost see that the fakes are not uniformly thick. The fakes did have B+W printed on them and the boxes were real but in a side by side comparison there was no doubt that they were fake. I only noticed after I processed the pictures and all of them taken with the new filters had a severe quality problem. The real downside is that I used these filters on a very important project for my biggest customer and the images definitely suffered so now I look like a jackass. I wasted $70 worth of film with these fake filters, not to mention the blow to my professional reputation. I've yet to contact the company about this so I don't know if they'll make good on the refund or exchange. A vicious person would most certainly sue the company for such a transgression I'll keep you posted. In the meantime when buying filters be sure to ask if they're genuine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 29, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 29, 2011 I only noticed after I processed the pictures and all of them taken with the new filters had a severe quality problem. Wow, they must be very bad considering the amount of crap and scratches that you can have on a filter before it affects the photo. Any chance of showing us what this severe problem looks like? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSkeoch Posted August 29, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 29, 2011 I use the B+W filters for black and white all the time. The single most useful is the 040 orange for darkening the sky in landscape work. The second filter I use is the 022, which is a yellow. Not as much effect but works well if you're at a higher altitude since the 040 can go to dark up high. The 090 red is also in the bag, not much use. It makes the sky black and hollow looking. Also all shadow areas lit by the blue sky appear hollow. -Rob Skeoch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 29, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 29, 2011 The second filter I use is the 022, which is a yellow A yellow filter was my most used one when shooting b&w film. You need to remember to remove them if you load colour film - needless to say I have a few nice yellow photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted August 29, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 29, 2011 ... You need to remember to remove them if you load colour film - needless to say I have a few nice yellow photographs. ................................................................................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted August 29, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 29, 2011 I always used multicoated B+W - note it's B+W not B&W. B&W are a UK based manufacturer of hifi equipment. ... and mighty fine gear it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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