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Like a 35 Lux ASPH....but longer.....?

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Hi guys

 

Since being lucky enough to find a perfect 2nd version 35 Summilux ASPH, I am a very happy bunny. I used to be in love with my pre-asph 50 Lux, but it has sadly been consigned to the shelf for now.

 

Here is where things get a little woolly.....

 

There is a quality I can't pin down in the pics I'm getting out the 35 Lux ASPH which I am utterly addicted to. It almost looks like a Tilt Shift lens in its ability to create a 3D separation for the main subject, with a bokeh quality I find gorgeous - just enough character, but not intrusive.

 

What I would love would be to supplement this lens with a longer version of it. But what would that be? 75 Cron? 90 Cron? Do these lenses have that same 35 mojo? I have the 75 Lux and while it too can be amazing, it doesn’t quite have the same 'look' for me - I'd say it has its own look which is also gorgeous, just more old-school, inevitably.

 

It's hard to judge from little jpegs in Flickr, so really I'm looking to hear from anyone who is equally in love with the 35 Lux ASPH, and knows of any other lens that sprinkles that same magic dust on every light ray that passes through it.

 

Thanks all

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I acquired 35 lux fle recently and I can second everything you say about it.

So far I dint see anything similar yet. I've got 90 apo-cron, extremely sharp lens but with different rendering. 50 lux also has different character. I believe the new 35 lux is on its own class, thats probably why you see them sold for crazy prices.

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Umm... 50 Summilux asph? Summilux 24? Apo-Telyt 135? The list of magic lenses is long and lethal - for your creditcard...:p

 

Hee hee - yes I realised recently that my Leica gear is worth more than my Canon gear - and I have five Canon bodies including 3 pro ones, and a whole bunch of lenses - the Leica was supposed to be a sideline!

 

I'm not sure the 50 Lux ASPH has that mojo. It's a great lens but from what I've seen (and I don't yet own one) to me defines 'perfect' - and that almost makes it without a signature 'look'. I don't think the 35 is close to it technically but there is just something about it which I can neither explain, nor get enough of......

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Once you own one you will be making similar posts. It is one of those lenses that make every image come out better than expected....

I am NOT looking at anything pertaining to Summiluxes 35 asph V2...:mad::mad:Not looking....:D

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I'm not sure the 50 Lux ASPH has that mojo. It's a great lens but from what I've seen (and I don't yet own one) to me defines 'perfect' - and that almost makes it without a signature 'look'.

 

I don't think you would say this if you owned it, assuming of course you made your own prints.

 

I also think the 28 Summicron asph has a special quality. My 75 Summicron asph had wonderful character as well, but I didn't get along with the 75 frame lines.

 

I don't compare lenses...impossible for me to articulate...but I keep the ones that help render a wonderful print. These do.

 

Jeff

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Thanks Jeff. The 75 cron seems sort of a logical companion to it - I've never really been a 50-shooter.

 

Since I own the 75 Lux already, it would be good to know that the 75 Cron wide open would offer something that the Lux stopped down to f2 would not - or I may as well just use that....

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Of course, there are no rights and wrongs in a subjective discussion like this; its all opinion.

 

But you are wrong!

 

Made me chuckle!

 

I guess I would try the 50 if the chance ever arose - but please don't get me wrong, its results are tremendous, just to me a little, erm, normal. If I could explain quite the 'strangeness' from the 35 it would help - but it just has a look to its pics I adore.

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Dare I suggest the OP take a look at the Voightlander Nokton 35/1.2 II.....no flaming pls

 

It's hard not to.

 

The OP asked:

 

What I would love would be to supplement this lens with a longer version of it.

 

He's deliriously happy with his 35 Summilux ASP (FLE). Why would he want to look at a Voigtlander of the same focal length? Look out, I can hear Noel coming ...

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You might try out the 75mm APO Summicron. It's one of my best lenses I own, Here is a picture recently taken shot at F2 of my grandson, by the way he's the one on the right!

 

Best Regards

 

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I own the 50mm Summilux ASPH (since 2005) and the 35mm Summilux ASPH FLE (since spring 2010) so I have had opportunity to compare them.

 

Both are 'magical' as Fluff calls it, that is, they have a distinct character of their own. But while lens 'character' in the past meant 'flaky in a charming way', both lenses get theirs from an ability to draw the sharp part of the subject in such a way that you feel that you can touch and feel it; there is a clarity in the plane of best sharpness that is breath-taking.

 

The picture here was taken with the 50 wide open, and at 1/30, ISO1000. The defocused unsharpness is supplemented by subject movement – it was a lively tune. The only sharp object in the center of the picture is the profile and the bow of the second fiddler from the left, but that IS sharp. – I may add that the picture would have been impossible except for the lense's extreme control of flare. The church interior is quite dark, and outside the window, the afternoon sun was blazing. The 35 would have flared more, though still far less than the predecessor 'non-FLE ASPH'.

 

That is magic.

 

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I own the 50mm Summilux ASPH (since 2005) and the 35mm Summilux ASPH FLE (since spring 2010) so I have had opportunity to compare them.

 

Both are 'magical' as Fluff calls it, that is, they have a distinct character of their own. But while lens 'character' in the past meant 'flaky in a charming way', both lenses get theirs from an ability to draw the sharp part of the subject in such a way that you feel that you can touch and feel it; there is a clarity in the plane of best sharpness that is breath-taking.

 

The picture here was taken with the 50 wide open, and at 1/30, ISO1000. The defocused unsharpness is supplemented by subject movement – it was a lively tune. The only sharp object in the center of the picture is the profile and the bow of the second fiddler from the left, but that IS sharp. – I may add that the picture would have been impossible except for the lense's extreme control of flare. The church interior is quite dark, and outside the window, the afternoon sun was blazing. The 35 would have flared more, though still far less than the predecessor 'non-FLE ASPH'.

 

That is magic.

 

The old man from the Age B.C. (Before Coating)

 

So Lars you're saying that the new FLE version shoots better against strong light, and flares less, compared to the previous ASPH? I've never seen this compared or documented. Any references? My brief tests between the two lenses had them almost identical, focus issues aside.

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Hi guys

 

Since being lucky enough to find a perfect 2nd version 35 Summilux ASPH, I am a very happy bunny. I used to be in love with my pre-asph 50 Lux, but it has sadly been consigned to the shelf for now.

 

Here is where things get a little woolly.....

 

There is a quality I can't pin down in the pics I'm getting out the 35 Lux ASPH which I am utterly addicted to. It almost looks like a Tilt Shift lens in its ability to create a 3D separation for the main subject, with a bokeh quality I find gorgeous - just enough character, but not intrusive.

 

What I would love would be to supplement this lens with a longer version of it. But what would that be? 75 Cron? 90 Cron? Do these lenses have that same 35 mojo? I have the 75 Lux and while it too can be amazing, it doesn’t quite have the same 'look' for me - I'd say it has its own look which is also gorgeous, just more old-school, inevitably.

 

It's hard to judge from little jpegs in Flickr, so really I'm looking to hear from anyone who is equally in love with the 35 Lux ASPH, and knows of any other lens that sprinkles that same magic dust on every light ray that passes through it.

 

Thanks all

 

I think it would be impossible to find a supplemental lens with the same look; the same 3D separation. The huge factor being different focal lengths render bokeh differently and longer lenses naturally flatten perspective. Closest you could come are colour, contrast and tonal range rendition.

 

I would say your 75mm Summilux is a pretty good companion :-)

 

Edmond

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