leicashot Posted August 12, 2011 Share #21 Posted August 12, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't have those hoods with me here but i don't share this certitude with respect. With respect, the 28 Summicron hood is actually noticeably thicker than the 35 Summilux ASPH hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted August 12, 2011 Share #22 Posted August 12, 2011 I rest my case for now but i won't mind to be proved wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted August 12, 2011 Share #23 Posted August 12, 2011 I rest my case for now but i won't mind to be proved wrong. haha, its not about wrong or right, just go to a store and see for yourself :-) or take a look at this thread where you can see the thickness of the 28 Summicron hood. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/181344-leica-12589-vs-12466-replacement-hood.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 12, 2011 Share #24 Posted August 12, 2011 Again no problem to be proved wrong if any. I have those hoods as i said above so i'll check when i return home in a couple of weeks. Edit: I see no comparison of thickness between the 2 plastic hoods in your link above. Am i missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 12, 2011 Share #25 Posted August 12, 2011 ...I'm assuming the old 35mm f1.4 ASPH plastic hood doesn't vignette when used on the 28mm Summicorn on an M9. Just felt the need to ask in case that hood was being used on M8 bodies... I don't own an M9 but i seem to recall that Ian (wattsy) confirmed the lack of vignette in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted August 13, 2011 Share #26 Posted August 13, 2011 Again no problem to be proved wrong if any. I have those hoods as i said above so i'll check when i return home in a couple of weeks.Edit: I see no comparison of thickness between the 2 plastic hoods in your link above. Am i missing something? No it's not a comparison but if you're familiar with the 35 ASPH hood, you'll see how much thicker the Summicron hood is in the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 13, 2011 Share #27 Posted August 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The original 28 hood probably is thicker (and heavier) than the 35 hood (#12589) but I can't say I've ever measured the difference - the latter is more than adequately thick for the task required of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 13, 2011 Share #28 Posted August 13, 2011 Ok, I know this is a stupid question as no one would use it if it did, but I'm assuming the old 35mm f1.4 ASPH plastic hood doesn't vignette when used on the 28mm Summicorn on an M9. Just felt the need to ask in case that hood was being used on M8 bodies :-) It's not a stupid question at all. The 35 plastic hood was widely used on the 28 Summicron when that lens was the popular 'standard' for the M8. I carried on using that hood when moving to an M9 without thinking about the potential vignetting problem and only later considered that possibility. I haven't done exhaustive tests (in fact I haven't really done any tests) but I haven't noticed any hood induced vignetting when using the 35 hood (#12589) on the M9 and have decided to stick with that combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted August 13, 2011 Share #29 Posted August 13, 2011 The original 28 hood probably is thicker (and heavier) than the 35 hood (#12589) but I can't say I've ever measured the difference - the latter is more than adequately thick for the task required of it. The difference is that if you squeeze the Lux hood hard enough it will snap, whereas on the Cron hood, you simply cannot. It is much stronger, thicker and a bit heavier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 13, 2011 Share #30 Posted August 13, 2011 Well don't squeeze it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share #31 Posted August 13, 2011 I don't own an M9 but i seem to recall that Ian (wattsy) confirmed the lack of vignette in another thread. Cheers :-) Ian, can you confirm if there are any vignetting issues on full frame? CHeers :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share #32 Posted August 13, 2011 It's not a stupid question at all. The 35 plastic hood was widely used on the 28 Summicron when that lens was the popular 'standard' for the M8. I carried on using that hood when moving to an M9 without thinking about the potential vignetting problem and only later considered that possibility. I haven't done exhaustive tests (in fact I haven't really done any tests) but I haven't noticed any hood induced vignetting when using the 35 hood (#12589) on the M9 and have decided to stick with that combination. Oops, you did!! Sorry, hadn't read down! Thanks :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share #33 Posted August 16, 2011 Wanted to say thanks to all. Picked up the 28mm Summicron ASPH today; what a fabulous lens! In the end I didn't go with the metal hood; primarily because it's just too expensive and secondly because plastic is going to give better impact protection if the worst was to happen! I went for the old 35mm Summilux ASPH plastic hood which definitely doesn't vignette :-) In the days of film I used to have the 35mm Summilux ASPH and hated this hood as it was too thin and flimsy feeling! Well, the one I bought today definitely feels more substantial and has come to the rescue! I just can't stand the standard huge hood! Cheers, Edmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 16, 2011 Share #34 Posted August 16, 2011 Hi Edmond, I use the 12466 hood on my 28 Summicron, and it works very well. It was ridiculously expensive - I got it slightly cheaper from PopFlash, but still a lot. I use a similar hood (without the scalloping) on my 35 Summicon ASPH (it cost way less). Not sure who made it, but it has 1:1.4/35 1:1.2/35 in white letters on the bottom and two silver press lugs to hold it onto the lens. Its too small to fit onto the 28 Summicron, so I suspect it was for a previous 35 Summilux. It doesn't have the guide to hold it in position, so it can rotate, causing wear marks on the lens, which is annoying, but I guess it's just another sign of use. No sign of vignetting with either on the 28 or the 35, and both look a lot better than the big ugly plastic things the lenses come with. The lens caps don't seem to pop off as much either as they are protected by the hood. Some one else commented about difficulty getting the lens cap off with the hood on. With e filter, it's a breeze as the cap stands out a bit. In terms of protection, I haven't dropped either camera or any lens (yet) but my expectation is that the hoods are not so thick that they wouldn't bend and absorb much of the impact. The lens cap would probably pop off, but I'm reasonably confident the hood would protect the lens (or at least the front element) well. Cheers John PS - your article on the Noctilux 0.95 has inspired me to place an order. Hopefully, I will go off the idea before I have to pay for it, but at this stage it's not looking likely ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share #35 Posted August 17, 2011 Hi Edmond, I use the 12466 hood on my 28 Summicron, and it works very well. It was ridiculously expensive - I got it slightly cheaper from PopFlash, but still a lot. I use a similar hood (without the scalloping) on my 35 Summicon ASPH (it cost way less). Not sure who made it, but it has 1:1.4/35 1:1.2/35 in white letters on the bottom and two silver press lugs to hold it onto the lens. Its too small to fit onto the 28 Summicron, so I suspect it was for a previous 35 Summilux. It doesn't have the guide to hold it in position, so it can rotate, causing wear marks on the lens, which is annoying, but I guess it's just another sign of use. No sign of vignetting with either on the 28 or the 35, and both look a lot better than the big ugly plastic things the lenses come with. The lens caps don't seem to pop off as much either as they are protected by the hood. Some one else commented about difficulty getting the lens cap off with the hood on. With e filter, it's a breeze as the cap stands out a bit. In terms of protection, I haven't dropped either camera or any lens (yet) but my expectation is that the hoods are not so thick that they wouldn't bend and absorb much of the impact. The lens cap would probably pop off, but I'm reasonably confident the hood would protect the lens (or at least the front element) well. Cheers John PS - your article on the Noctilux 0.95 has inspired me to place an order. Hopefully, I will go off the idea before I have to pay for it, but at this stage it's not looking likely ... Thanks for the feedback John. Glad you liked the Noctilux article; you're going to love the lens :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozkar Posted August 17, 2011 Share #36 Posted August 17, 2011 Is a hood really necessary with the 28 Summicron? Hi Edmond, I use the 12466 hood on my 28 Summicron, and it works very well. It was ridiculously expensive - I got it slightly cheaper from PopFlash, but still a lot. I use a similar hood (without the scalloping) on my 35 Summicon ASPH (it cost way less). Not sure who made it, but it has 1:1.4/35 1:1.2/35 in white letters on the bottom and two silver press lugs to hold it onto the lens. Its too small to fit onto the 28 Summicron, so I suspect it was for a previous 35 Summilux. It doesn't have the guide to hold it in position, so it can rotate, causing wear marks on the lens, which is annoying, but I guess it's just another sign of use. No sign of vignetting with either on the 28 or the 35, and both look a lot better than the big ugly plastic things the lenses come with. The lens caps don't seem to pop off as much either as they are protected by the hood. Some one else commented about difficulty getting the lens cap off with the hood on. With e filter, it's a breeze as the cap stands out a bit. In terms of protection, I haven't dropped either camera or any lens (yet) but my expectation is that the hoods are not so thick that they wouldn't bend and absorb much of the impact. The lens cap would probably pop off, but I'm reasonably confident the hood would protect the lens (or at least the front element) well. Cheers John PS - your article on the Noctilux 0.95 has inspired me to place an order. Hopefully, I will go off the idea before I have to pay for it, but at this stage it's not looking likely ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 17, 2011 Share #37 Posted August 17, 2011 I guess I'm in the habit of using them with all my lenses. For flare, and to protect the front element. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share #38 Posted August 17, 2011 As John already mentioned, it offers protection (even if you have filters) and the more you shield the front element from light rays that can cause loss of contrast at best and strong flaring at worst, the better. I always have hoods on all my lenses. Edmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted August 17, 2011 Share #39 Posted August 17, 2011 I always have hoods on all my lenses. Edmond +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahakalaka Posted August 17, 2011 Share #40 Posted August 17, 2011 As an alternative, I am quite happy with a Heavystar 46mm Wide. Takes little space in the viewfinder, practical lens cap, works fine with filters, $9.00 from ebay. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maximilian Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maximilian ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/159113-28mm-summicron-metal-lens-hood/?do=findComment&comment=1768077'>More sharing options...
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