dannyt Posted August 7, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seal twittered he was out shooting with his super rare 50mm 1.2 ASPH, is this a new lens, or a one of prototype of some sort, anybody know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Hi dannyt, Take a look here Rare 50mm 1.2 ASPH. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mmradman Posted August 7, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 7, 2011 It could be that Herr Dr Kaufmann is grooming Seal to buy the business from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
horosu Posted August 7, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 7, 2011 No it's the first Noctilux, 50/1.2 with two aspherical surfaces, introduced in 1966 (Link) and Review Ciao, Horea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted August 7, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 7, 2011 For $15k you can buy your own Leica M 50 F1.2 NOCTILUX (48) #11820 35MM RANGEFINDER MANUAL FOCUS STANDARD ANGLE LENS - KEH.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted August 8, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 8, 2011 Last time I saw one of these it was NEW, $711 in 1969 at Altman’s Camera in Chicago. I could only afford the 2.8 Elmar for $81… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted August 8, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 8, 2011 I guess in the KEH listing "BGN" means Box, Guarantee card, New condition? Or does "BGN $15,249.00" refer to Belgian dollars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThangNguyen Posted August 8, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Last time I saw one of these it was NEW, $711 in 1969 at Altman’s Camera in Chicago. I could only afford the 2.8 Elmar for $81… I know now why people want to have a time machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbonthemoon Posted August 8, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 8, 2011 The lens has only collectible value now. The optics are way inferior to the nocti 50/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 8, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 8, 2011 Last time I saw one of these it was NEW, $711 in 1969 at Altman’s Camera in Chicago. I could only afford the 2.8 Elmar for $81… I was making around $700 monthly then. Used Pentaxes because I could afford them, but spent years trying to figure why my prints did not match the paper samples all to no avail. Then I was loaned a Leica and the problem went away instantly with the first roll, same film, developer, paper, all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted August 9, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 9, 2011 I guess in the KEH listing "BGN" means Box, Guarantee card, New condition? Or does "BGN $15,249.00" refer to Belgian dollars? I believe BGN is short for 'Bargain' condition. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicashot Posted August 9, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 9, 2011 Can't imagine what a mint price would be. On a related topic, I noticed that Adorama is using their classing their 'demo' lenses as used, then charging over list price. Seems there's a loop hole to get a higher margin from new lenses, considering the used market sellers are making more than retailers now. So here's the new procedure. Open a new lens, demo it, then charge the used market price. Genius! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 9, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 9, 2011 Last time I saw one of these it was NEW, $711 in 1969 at Altman’s Camera in Chicago. I could only afford the 2.8 Elmar for $81… That's interesting. $711 was a lot of money in those days Puts the current Noctilux price in perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_dernie Posted August 9, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 9, 2011 The lens has only collectible value now. The optics are way inferior to the nocti 50/1 Maybe yours has taken a knock. There is not much between my f1.2 and f1.0 Noctis, except at f1.0 of course. The f1.2 is lovely to use but one may as well have a f0.95 if you have that sort of money! Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_dernie Posted August 9, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 9, 2011 I was making around $700 monthly then. Used Pentaxes because I could afford them, but spent years trying to figure why my prints did not match the paper samples all to no avail. Then I was loaned a Leica and the problem went away instantly with the first roll, same film, developer, paper, all the same. Wow, I was earning about $700 a year then, one could have bought a small house in need of renovation where I lived at that time for $700, but I couldn't afford it. It was a over a decade later before I could afford my first Leica, a used IIIf-RD Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbonthemoon Posted August 9, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 9, 2011 Maybe yours has taken a knock. There is not much between my f1.2 and f1.0 Noctis, except at f1.0 of course.The f1.2 is lovely to use but one may as well have a f0.95 if you have that sort of money! Frank I do not own one This was actually based on Erwin Puts review that I read not long ago. The original Noctilux 1,2/50mm (the one with the aspherical surfaces) recorded image outlines with medium to high contrast, but lost out in the recording of fine image details. When stopping down the image quality did not improve very much. It might be possible that these characteristics have been projected into the new Noctilux-M 1.0/50 because the name is the same. The latter lens however is a quantum leap better than its illustrious predecessor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted August 9, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 9, 2011 I was surprised by Erwin's comment. At the time the f/1.0 replaced the f/1.2, I was not alone among those working for Leica who preferred the rendering of the aspheric lens to its successor. Still, in neither case was I seeing the work of real photographic artists. My opinion might have been different if I had seen images made by a talent such as Kristian Dowling with the current f/0.95 as at http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/190427-leica-noctilux-0-95-unplugged.html. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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