Jager Posted July 8, 2011 Share #21 Posted July 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have really tried to use my right eye with my Ms, because that's what you're "supposed" to do. But I gave up years ago The 0.58 viewfinder helps, but I cannot see how using your right eye with left eye open could possibly help with composition. That happens inside the frame lines, and they are much easier to see if the other eye is closed or obscured by the camera body. YMMV. Andy, it helps with composition - for me, at least - because having both eyes open dramatically expands the field of view versus what can be seen solely through the viewfinder. In that instance I don't mean "composition" in the limited sense of where I place the framelines vis-a-vis the subject (although that is important). I'm speaking more broadly of being able to see the world in front of me, and in particular of things that are moving towards the viewfinder, but are not yet visible within them. Indeed, re-training my eye after decades of left-eye shooting was rather frustrating. As I mentioned, it took several weeks of dedicated (and not particularly fun) effort. But I'm glad I persevered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Geschlecht Posted July 8, 2011 Share #22 Posted July 8, 2011 Hello Andy, To test for eye-ness all you have to do is look @ something. Eye dominance has nothing to do w/ whether a person is left or right handed &/or left or right anything else in any combination. Keep both eyes open. Remember what you see. Now bring one hand up over your eye on the same side. For example left hand over left eye. You are now seeing w/ your right eye. Remember what you see. W/O putting the first hand you raised down lift your other hand over your other eye. In this instance that would mean right hand over right eye. Now you are looking @ 2 hands very closely. Now lower the first raised hand. You are now seeing w/ your left eye. Remember what you see. Which one most looks like what you see when you are looking out of both eyes? You may have to repeat moving your hands back & forth a number of times to figure this out. Remember to keep the previous eye covered until you first also cover the next. Then uncover the previous eye. The one that looks more like looking w/ both eyes is your dominant eye & is usually the one you will be more comfortable using to focus & view w/. If your eyes seem the same w/ both you get to choose the one you want when you want to & change when you want to. If you see better w/ one eye but you are using the other it may be because previously eyeness was often treated as a value judgement just like handedness was. Many left handed people were taught to only do things right handedly. Many left eyed people were taught to do things right eyed & still do so today even tho they are left eyed & could accomplish more & do things more easily & more comfortably using their left eye. Sometimes it may be necessay to unlearn a previous behavior. Sometimes for some people it is difficult to unlearn & relearn new skill sets w/ the new eye even when doing so does produce readily apparent significant advantages. One related point: Altho eyeness, handness & so forth are not value judgements Leica M's are clearly right handed cameras. One of the few concessions M's make to those not right handed, eyed, etc is their range/viewfinders are more usable by left eyed people than a reflex camera w/ a small viewfinder access port in the center except for early Exaktas & most Alpas. A Hasselblad or Rollei w/ a large screen visible from above or a Sinar or a Linhof w/ a ground glass back of course uses either or both eyes so viewing & focussing w/ them is not an issue here. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted July 8, 2011 Share #23 Posted July 8, 2011 That's a good test, here's another: Hold out both your arms in front of you with index fingers raised (or hold two pencils). Now bring one finger, say the left one, directly in front of your nose at a distance of about six inches to a foot (15-30cm). Now line up the other finger with the first finger, but further out from your face. Try to line them up as accurately as possible. Use both eyes for this exercise. Now close first one eye and then the other to see if both fingers are perfectly aligned. The result will be more accurate with one eye than the other. This is your dominant eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted July 9, 2011 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2011 Here's another... pick up a camera and look through the viewfinder. That's your dominant eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted July 9, 2011 Share #25 Posted July 9, 2011 In fact it's not your eye that's dominant it's your brain, on the opposite side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 9, 2011 Share #26 Posted July 9, 2011 Relating to brain side, not eye dominance, I mentioned this book on another thread. It provides some very useful insights related to two dimensional space, and is helpful for photographers, not just folks who draw. Users of large format cameras (seeing the image upside down and reversed) will understand the benefits of some of the exercises. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 9, 2011 Share #27 Posted July 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...]That got me thinking. People actually use their right eye to shoot? I'm so use to having the camera covering my face I almost felt naked when I pulled a M6 to my right eye; that and the fact I couldn't see through the viewfinder very well. [...] After reading about ocular dominance I found that the "camera test" is one of the informal ways some would find their ocular dominance.It is silly .[...] You did not read far enough into the literature. Each eye conveys information to both sides of the brain. IOW, one side of the eye sends to the right the the other to the left. What happens in the visual mid-brain is still not fully understood; instead science addresses mostly what happens at the hind-brain which yields most easily to topical visual research and informs the rest us with very damn little. I can recommend some literature on this if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 9, 2011 Share #28 Posted July 9, 2011 What finally prompted me to change was when I got my M8. Shooting left-eyed quickly left nose grease all over the rear screen Then just wipe it off by rubbing the back of the camera against your shirt. I speak as a left eye using M8 owner who has never seen the 'nose pressing against the back of the camera' thing as a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted July 9, 2011 Share #29 Posted July 9, 2011 [...]After reading about ocular dominance I found that the "camera test" is one of the informal ways some would find their ocular dominance. That it is silly .[...] You did not read far enough into the literature. Each eye conveys information to both sides of the brain. IOW, one side of the eye sends to the right the the other to the left. What happens in the visual mid-brain is still not fully understood; instead science addresses mostly what happens at the hind-brain which yields most easily to topical visual research and informs the rest us with very damn little. I can recommend some literature on this if you like. Dominance and differences of the eyes only occur to an individual's with and individual of the total loss of an eye or the severance of the Corpus callosum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 9, 2011 Share #30 Posted July 9, 2011 Then just wipe it off by rubbing the back of the camera against your shirt. I speak as a left eye using M8 owner who has never seen the 'nose pressing against the back of the camera' thing as a problem. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted July 9, 2011 Share #31 Posted July 9, 2011 too complicated ?!.... a) Look at something with both eyes open. With both eyes open and one arm stretched out (left or right, it doesn't matter), point at an object with one finger. c) Close one eye. If the finger is still on the object you're pointing at, then, that is your dominant eye. ....If it is off, then it's the other eye that is dominant,.... obviously. ...... ps Clay pigeon shooting. EDIT - (Trap/Double Trap/Down the Line) Left eye shooter, stock in right shoulder and right eye closed, still works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 9, 2011 Share #32 Posted July 9, 2011 Left-handed, left-eyed, right mind Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 9, 2011 Share #33 Posted July 9, 2011 Right eyed, all thumbs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prunelle Posted July 9, 2011 Share #34 Posted July 9, 2011 Left eye because my eyesight is bad and my right eye is half dead. The left eye is slightly better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted July 9, 2011 Share #35 Posted July 9, 2011 Hi there, I've read this thread with interest and have to admit in all the years I've used a camera (50+) I' have never once thought about using anything but my left eye. I've just tried my M6 using my right eye and to me its completely unnatural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted July 9, 2011 Share #36 Posted July 9, 2011 Before RF camera there was bolt action rifle. Rifle was and still is designed to be aimed and fired by right eye user. There are probably many other devices that favour right over left side. BTW I am left handed, use right eye, my left eyesight is not good enough to focus the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted July 9, 2011 Share #37 Posted July 9, 2011 I don't know but I remember as a young boy learning to use a shotgun that eye dominance is an important factor in HOW you shoot. Left eye dominance and right handedness are not a great combination when aiming a shotgun (though I'm sure there are plenty who have got by without a 'crossover' stock). I had that problem with revolvers. They move around quite a lot before the bullets leaves the barrel, and I am left-handed but right-eyed. So recoil tended to pull the hit group to the right, because the left arm could not take it up in a straight line. Recoil got a sideways component! I got myself a black pirate-style patch for my right eye and started to shoot left-eyed. It took less than two boxes of ammo to make the transition, i.e. I could shoot full left even without the patch. (But I continued to shoot rifles of all descriptions, plus light anti-tank weapons etc., right-handed and right-eyed!) So eye dominance is not fate. You can re-train yourself. The advantage of shooting a Leica M right-eyed is that you can keep the left eye open and have a kind of subliminal picture of the scenery ahead. This is somewhat of a trick because of the negative magnification of the finder, but it can be done. If you do acquire a patch, I also recommend a beard. The old man Blackbeard who is now Captain Whitebeard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted July 9, 2011 Share #38 Posted July 9, 2011 If you do acquire a patch, I also recommend a beard. LOL .... Good one! .... :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 9, 2011 Share #39 Posted July 9, 2011 I have this vision of a man dressed as a pirate shooting an anti-tank bazooka. Scary stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebidwell Posted July 9, 2011 Share #40 Posted July 9, 2011 too complicated ?!.... a) Look at something with both eyes open. With both eyes open and one arm stretched out (left or right, it doesn't matter), point at an object with one finger. c) Close one eye. If the finger is still on the object you're pointing at, then, that is your dominant eye. ....If it is off, then it's the other eye that is dominant,.... obviously. ...... ps Clay pigeon shooting. EDIT - (Trap/Double Trap/Down the Line) Left eye shooter, stock in right shoulder and right eye closed, still works. In the past I did a lot of Clay pigeon shooting and that was the way we used to work out which was the dominant eye and mine was always the left. When I took up NRA 1500 Pistol Shooting,being right handed I always kept my right eye closed and used my left eye for aiming. Always worked fine for me. I suppose that's why I focus with my left eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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