jonoslack Posted July 9, 2011 Share #41 Posted July 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I learned a lesson back in the '80s that the editors of LFI haven't learned to this day. When SAP AG first had their manuals translated from German to English they used native German speaking technical translators who, although competent, did not have an idiomatic grasp of the target language nor an understanding of nuance. As a result the first printing (I was working at Siemens at the time and was on the receiving end) translated "fields" (as in "address field") as "meadows"... Regards. Bill Hi Bill - that's delightful - and a real reason for keeping the status quo. From henceforth I will always refer to Fields as Meadows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Washington Posted July 10, 2011 Share #42 Posted July 10, 2011 I HATE acronyms! I guess I should but I don’t know what ‘’LFI’’ means. I assume the L is for Leica. So, I consult my friends website …. and LFI can mean the following: LFI - Definition by AcronymFinder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2011 Share #43 Posted July 10, 2011 It is just the name of a magazine. In the past it was called Leica Fotografie International. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 10, 2011 Share #44 Posted July 10, 2011 With regard to LFI English version I notice the common use of the word 'motif', does this mean picture, photograph or element in a picture? Jeff I usually read it simply as "subject" - the thing being photographed, the subject of the photo. That usually makes sense in the context (in LFI, anyway). I can get a "chain" of on-line translations that gives "subject" (english) = "thema" (german) and "theme" (english) = "leitmotiv" (german). But that just goes to show that words go off in different directions within a language, attracting different conceptual synonyms, especially if they are used in different fields of occupation. Field = meadow - for farmers Field = little box to type in - for programmers On topic - I have a vague recollection of my father (who was a Du Pont paint chemist before becoming, ironically, an English professor) explaining that "chrome" as used in plating was actually a transparent tough protective surface, and that the "shiny silver" stuff usually called chrome, on cars for example, was visible shiny nickel electroplate, covered with a hard transparent electroplated chromium overcoat. Which - btw - goes to demonstrate my previous point. I'll bet "overcoat" translates very differently into german depending on whether one means "article of clothing" or "last stage in finishing the outside of an object." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted July 10, 2011 Share #45 Posted July 10, 2011 Andy, Interesting that your Dad was a DuPont chemist. Did he have anything to do with the development of nitrocelluous lacquer? (which changed the finishing of automobiles from time consuming brush applied Japanning to spay painting) Anyway, chrome is NOT transparent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 10, 2011 Share #46 Posted July 10, 2011 Probably my memory failure - regarding "transparent" chrome. He did, indeed, have "something" to do with nitrocellulose auto paints - but as a newbie chemist right out of college in 1940, it mostly amounted to being the "gofer" who went out to the outdoor "weathering" stations around Wilmington to measure how various formulas were holding up to wind, sun and rain. That ended when he was "drafted" to work in the chemical end of the Manhattan Project (again at a really junior level; Army rank T/4 or so) - working on the triggering explosives (TNT) for the A-bomb at Batavia Natl. Lab. (now FermiLab) in Illinois, and later the uranium-refinement lines at Oak Ridge and the reactor at Hanford, Wash. Used his GI Bill post-war to switch from studying TNT to studying FSF (F. Scott Fitzgerald). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted July 10, 2011 Share #47 Posted July 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Andy, Hell-of-an-interesting career your Dad had there alright. Golly, Delaware was/is about owned by the Du Pont’s as I remember. I used to drive through there years ago. My great aunt Lottie lived on her old family farm down the road in Snow Hill, Maryland. I remember going down to the end of the Delmarva Peninsula to take the ferry across the bay to visit my Grandmother in Portsmouth, VA….. being from the north I really did not understand what ‘’Colored Only’’ drinking fountains were all about! Yes, a long time ago. As the Nitrocellous Lacquer was developed in the early ’20’s I doubt your Dad had anything to do with that…. but it sounds like he investigated the weathering properties of whatever Du Pont was providing at that time. I remember that one of the Du Pont children blew up himself and half the county in a explosive lab experiment gone wrong way back when. Anyway, this brought back a lot of memories!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2011 Share #48 Posted July 10, 2011 Anyway, chrome is NOT transparent Transparancy depends on the thickness of the layer of material. If the chrome layer you apply is thin enough it will be transparent. A German firm would know, as the same principle applies to Apfelstrudel pastry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted July 10, 2011 Share #49 Posted July 10, 2011 On topic - I have a vague recollection of my father (who was a Du Pont paint chemist before becoming, ironically, an English professor) explaining that "chrome" as used in plating was actually a transparent tough protective surface, and that the "shiny silver" stuff usually called chrome, on cars for example, was visible shiny nickel electroplate, covered with a hard transparent electroplated chromium overcoat. Which - btw - goes to demonstrate my previous point. I'll bet "overcoat" translates very differently into german depending on whether one means "article of clothing" or "last stage in finishing the outside of an object." The chrome layer on decoratively plated articles is indeed very thin, but it is not transparent. You can see this by looking at the nickel plated item before and after chromium plating. Shiny nickel has a brown tinge, chromium a slight blue tinge. Chromium plating has bad 'throwing power' ie the chromium does not plate in the recesses thus in these areas the nickel surface can still be seen. The situation is slightly different with chromium plated from trivalent chromium baths. Here the deposit is browner. Commercial trivalent chromium plating is a relatively recent development, much of which has happened since I left the industry. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted July 10, 2011 Share #50 Posted July 10, 2011 Jeff, It’s been a long time but I remember some really complicated anode arrangements to try and get chrome onto recesses and such. There was also some electrical device that would switch the polarity at regulated intervals to help remove the edge build-up. I forget what this was called… as I said: it’s been a really long time. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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