BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Would you buy a M7 which is unused, new and 10 years old? Â Bernhard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Hi BlackDE, Take a look here M7, new, unused. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
earleygallery Posted July 8, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Depends, if it was working fine and the price was right then why not? Otherwise no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl E Posted July 8, 2011 Share #3 Â Posted July 8, 2011 If the camera is sold with full warranty or passport, I would not hesitate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 8, 2011 Share #4 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Bearing in mind they were introduced in 2002, the answer would be "No" Â If it's been unused, but has a full warranty, then "probably". If it's cheap enough, send it to Solms for a full CLA and the free DX reader replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share #5 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Depends, if it was working fine and the price was right then why not? Otherwise no. Â The price is right I guess (almost 50% of a new M7 today). If it is working properly I can not tell. Seller on ebay says so. I wonder if after 10 years in the box the camera needs some overhaul. Â Bernhard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 8, 2011 Share #6 Â Posted July 8, 2011 eBay? Â Avoid. If you can't see it before buying, if you can't hold it and judge it for yourself, don't go there. Â If it sounds too good to be true... Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 8, 2011 Share #7 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's why I suggested you should send it to Leica. You don't know how it has been stored - the lubrication may have dried out, for example. Â I'd prefer to buy a well looked after second hand one, than a 9 year old unused one. Â And, don't forget that the list price for new film Ms is a "guide" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share #8 Â Posted July 8, 2011 If the camera is sold with full warranty or passport, I would not hesitate. Â I comes with all paperwork but warranty has expired, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share #9  Posted July 8, 2011 eBay? Avoid. If you can't see it before buying, if you can't hold it and judge it for yourself, don't go there.  If it sounds too good to be true...  Regards,  Bill  That's what I thought! Thx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 8, 2011 Share #10 Â Posted July 8, 2011 I suspect it's just a used boxed example, never trust eBay descriptions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share #11 Â Posted July 8, 2011 I suspect it's just a used boxed example, never trust eBay descriptions! Â You could trust mine the moment I sell something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2011 Share #12 Â Posted July 8, 2011 It can happen. I recently bought a new M6 at a dealer with full new-camera factory guaranty. I did send it to Solms to check and it was well, new...The same dealer had sold me a new R8 some time before. Same story, only five years factory guaranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 8, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Indeed, and buying from a dealer with the Leica warranty, no worries, my R3 was also new from a dealer some years after the R4 had been introduced. But it sounds like the OP is simply looking at a secondhand camera which hasn't been used for a long time. I see loads of stuff on e bay described by sellers as 'new' when it clearly isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 8, 2011 Share #14 Â Posted July 8, 2011 It can happen. I recently bought a new M6 at a dealer with full new-camera factory guaranty. I did send it to Solms to check and it was well, new...The same dealer had sold me a new R8 some time before. Same story, only five years factory guaranty. Â I bought an M8, albeit from a dealer, that was 2007 production and only had a few hundred pictures on the clock. It was completely unregistered and in perfect condition. It was originally bought by an elderly gentlement who unfortunately passed away, and then it took a number of years for his estate to get it on the market. Â Obviously a digital camera not film, but it was a perfect example. Â Ebay is something else. I buy and sell alot from ebay so its worth looking at the background of the seller and establishing a correspondence with the seller on its origin, condition, etc. to see if the story checks out for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted July 8, 2011 Share #15 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Do you have a reference or ebay seller to view the listing? My last M7 was purchased about 3 years ago from an Authorized Leica Dealer with full warranty and had been sitting on the shelf for many years. $2200USD Absolutely no problem with operation, lubricants nor anything else do not change over 10 years that can be measured. About a year later the older ASA reader started to give inconsistent reading and was upgraded no charge and was finder, camera cleaned and covering changed by tech because he didn't like the fit. So if the seller was not in Hong Kong but in the USA and had installed batteries and camera booted up normally, no problem but one needs to read the listing and if I was purchasing I would talk to the seller also. Good luck, the M7 is a great camera.-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
symmetron Posted July 8, 2011 Share #16 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Disregarding the mechanical condition of the camera, it has been my experience that new Leica items sold new that are ten years or older, will not have a valid new camera/lens warranty. This happened to me with a 60mm/2.8 lens that was ten years old and new, and verified by Leica USA, of course, after I bought it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2011 Share #17 Â Posted July 8, 2011 That could well be the Leica USA position. You may find that the factory guaranty differs. The legal position in Europe is different, and the factory guaranty is worldwide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDE Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share #18 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Disregarding the mechanical condition of the camera, it has been my experience that new Leica items sold new that are ten years or older, will not have a valid new camera/lens warranty. This happened to me with a 60mm/2.8 lens that was ten years old and new, and verified by Leica USA, of course, after I bought it. Â Thank you. From a serial number point of view it must be one of the first M7's produced. I have decided not to buy this camera but a camera from my local Leica dealer, instead, where I can put my hands on check it out. He has just got one in, used, in excellent condition. Â Bernhard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted July 8, 2011 Share #19 Â Posted July 8, 2011 Disregarding the mechanical condition of the camera, it has been my experience that new Leica items sold new that are ten years or older, will not have a valid new camera/lens warranty. This happened to me with a 60mm/2.8 lens that was ten years old and new, and verified by Leica USA, of course, after I bought it. Â I once purchased a near 20 year old -- new -- R6.2 with Leica warranty. Leica did honor the warranty. Wish I kept the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted July 8, 2011 Share #20  Posted July 8, 2011 Thank you. From a serial number point of view it must be one of the first M7's produced. I have decided not to buy this camera but a camera from my local Leica dealer, instead, where I can put my hands on check it out. He has just got one in, used, in excellent condition. Bernhard  I purchased a new M7 a year ago that was made in 2003. It cost less then 1/2 of the current MSRP for an M7. I've put about 100 rolls through it with no problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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