k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #421 Posted July 21, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seems this problem existed on the M8, the M8.2 and was feared to carry over into the M9. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/98708-piece-bad-news-seans-m9-review.html So not a new thing at all. Many thanks. VERY INTERESTING! I think I will revive the old thread in light of current discussions. Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #422 Posted July 21, 2011 All, The only discussion I've seen on the content of Sean Reid's M9 review is about his high ISO results. But in the "Speed" section was a very troubling remark that, surprisingly, has generated no discussion. Sean, far from being a Leica shill as some have claimed, reports that when firing in continuous mode, the M9 sometimes froze. On some occasions, he reports, these crashes caused the camera to lose some of the pictures that it had supposedly taken. In either case, the only way to get the camera working again was to remove and reinsert the battery. This same problem with the M8 was frequently reported on the LUF. I often experienced it myself with my M8s when taking many pictures in rapid succession (I would do this in single shot mode, not continuous, mode). Leica certainly knew about this problem, and they supposedly fixed it for me a few times although the "fixes" never worked. It would be surprising and disappointing if the M9 has the exact same bug. Has anyone else experienced this? Has anybody heard anything about a response from Leica since Sean's review mentioned this? Some things apparently haven't changed. The M9 marches on in the tradition of the M8 - good and bad. Leica ought to fix this problem before the M10 shows up. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #423 Posted July 21, 2011 Thorsten Overgaard mentions it on page one of his review. (relates to his experience in the previous linked thread from 2009 and the Ried review) leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Leica M9 Digital Rangefinder Camera He suggests that one shot every 12 seconds is a "hot barrel" and I read into that he means don't attempt anything quicker. Also seemed to be a link between soft, discreet shutter modes and C or rapid S shooting. Known for ages, still not fixed is my interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 21, 2011 Share #424 Posted July 21, 2011 Some things apparently haven't changed.The M9 marches on in the tradition of the M8 - good and bad. Leica ought to fix this problem before the M10 shows up. K-H. The only way to fix this problem is to stop using off the self part in a $7,000+ camera and design, or have someone design, proper electronics for them. If this is not the case with the M10 then I will wait for the M11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelduck Posted July 21, 2011 Share #425 Posted July 21, 2011 Some things apparently haven't changed.The M9 marches on in the tradition of the M8 - good and bad. Leica ought to fix this problem before the M10 shows up. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #426 Posted July 21, 2011 If a bug persists for more than 2 years it seems it becomes a "characteristic". Charming isn't it? Until you loose important shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #427 Posted July 21, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Merge away, doesn't reduce the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #428 Posted July 21, 2011 If a bug persists for more than 2 years it seems it becomes a "characteristic". Charming isn't it? Until you loose important shots. Exactly. Verrückt, nicht wahr? I like your style dwell. Thanks. On the US side of the big pond we call it a feature. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #429 Posted July 21, 2011 :D Sad and funny at the same time. Thanks, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #430 Posted July 21, 2011 Exactly. Verrückt, nicht wahr? On the US side of the big pond we call it a feature. K-H. Aber hallo! So was von peinlich! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #431 Posted July 21, 2011 Sorry Andy, I'm a very dissatisfied customer right now. My implication that merging was "sweeping it all under the carpet" was out of place and unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #432 Posted July 21, 2011 The only way to fix this problem is to stop using off the self part in a $7,000+ camera and design, or have someone design, proper electronics for them. If this is not the case with the M10 then I will wait for the M11 Fortunately about half of my Leitz/Leica lenses (the longer ones) work just beautifully on my Nikon cameras. What a relief! K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #433 Posted July 21, 2011 I agree, merging the threads documents the unfortunate continuation of an old problem. Extremely annoying! K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #434 Posted July 21, 2011 Aber hallo! So was von peinlich! Natürlich sehr peinlich. Vielleicht müssen wir hochdeutsch reden damit es in Solms verstanden wird. Schöne Grüße, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #435 Posted July 21, 2011 Es ist einen Versuch wert! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #436 Posted July 21, 2011 Oh no, in fact I hear the defenders of the realm saddling up as we speak...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 21, 2011 Share #437 Posted July 21, 2011 I should keep my mouth shut when in this mood, that much is true. Once again I apologise. Every-time we discuss the issue the threads are littered with "mine's fine so it must be something you're doing" type responses which are starting to grate. It seems a pretty common problem, although in relation to the number of people who haven't reported such behaviour it is argued that the error rate is statistically low. However, until it is understood which set of circumstances presents this behaviour it can't be determined if it's product wide or not. The problem has not been able to be accurately reproduced upon demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 21, 2011 Share #438 Posted July 21, 2011 Is every M9 owner suffering from this problem? Hi Andy, Understandably you have not been following the discussion. I suspect it's a product wide issue. Most folks don't know yet, as they are not using all the features of the M9. Additionally, the problem is intermittent and hard to track down. Many folks, including Jaap, have claimed it's only affecting a few M9s. Certainly Jaap appeared convinced his M9 was just fine, until he exercised some functionality he apparently had never used before. I am sure Jaap will chime in and let us know his side of the story. Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted July 21, 2011 Share #439 Posted July 21, 2011 Is every M9 owner suffering from this problem? I'm not but I still use the 5 Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD cards that I used with my M8s. However, I do have a Pretec 4GB SDHC card class 6, and with that the camera did fail to write images. Also I note that writing to the Pretec card is so much slower than the Sandisk SD cards. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 21, 2011 Share #440 Posted July 21, 2011 Sometimes in the last few weeks my M9, especially if you have it on uncompressed DNG plus JPEG fine, can take a very long time to empty the buffer after a burst on continuous (typically taking 2 series of 5 braketed images) . I mean 2 or 3 minutes. It is not consistent and other times will empty the buffer in around 30 seconds. At first I too thought it was locking up but if I just left it the buffer cleared. However, not all the images are there and there are file numbers with null contents. There is something not right. I did not notice this on any of the beta softwares but have noticed this a few times since 1.162. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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