dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #361 Posted July 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) For info to those who are interested in discussion; If I take continuous repeated shots, I can get 8 before the buffering screen warning appears, as in the video. If I then press play, it will show me, almost instantly the last shot of the run. I can then scroll left to see the previous 8 shots. All the time whilst doing this the red light is flashing. The first time I did it I pressed play once immediately during the buffer message, the next two times I "mashed" the play button several times in succession. Same perfect performance both ways. So I can't repeat the error in the video. I have since my crash re-installed the latest firmware being very careful with the 3 second wait, formatted card, full battery, format after update etc. Note - I'm only saving compressed DNG's. Might be worth trying with DNG uncompressed and large fine JPEG (or whatever the setting is?) to see if the increased data causes a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #362 Posted July 18, 2011 Shot the buffer full of DNG + JPG fine, hit "play" and as soon as an image appeared switched off the camera. In that situation it stopped writing the DNGs, it did finish the JPGs, however. Ok, thanks, agreed on the term "torture" in that sense! Would you describe my recreation of the video a torture test or consistent with normal use. For example if you were trying to get as many shots as you or the camera could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2011 Share #363 Posted July 18, 2011 Remind me of the procedure in your video please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #364 Posted July 18, 2011 The post above my last reply Jaapv. Just shooting until the buffer's full and it will trip the shutter no more. Then pressing play immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2011 Share #365 Posted July 18, 2011 With the camera set to DNG I suppose. OK, in that case it produces blank images. It is the first time I did that since 2006. Why should I, anyway? Woops - I tried again - this time without the lens cap... This time there were no blank images - it just wrote what I shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #366 Posted July 18, 2011 With the camera set to DNG I suppose. OK, in that case it produces blank images. It is the first time I did that since 2006. Why should I, anyway? Woops - I tried again - this time without the lens cap... This time there were no blank images - it just wrote what I shot. Let's gloss over that moment shall we? You see mine's fine too, works as you would expect. Stops recording when it no longer can (physically) record any more, however function and operation (ie pressing the play button) functions as expected. Yet, half way through a wedding something I did caused it to behave like in the other posters video. I'd like to know what I did so I can avoid doing it. I'll not call it "deeper investigation" if you would prefer, but you see what I'm getting at? Yours functions as mine does. But yours may not function one day as mine didn't - wouldn't you like to find out what circumstances caused that behaviour so that you can avoid it to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #367 Posted July 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just repeated the test with DNG & JPG fine. Only lasted 7 shots before buffering message but still was able to view the 7 images whilst the camera was writing to card. Red flashing light went on for AGES, but normal zoom and skip between file operation was possible. So amount of data here only reduced the total number of shots from 8 to 7 but did not cause loss of data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 18, 2011 Share #368 Posted July 18, 2011 In my observation it's an intermittent problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #369 Posted July 18, 2011 In my observation it's an intermittent problem. Yep, mine too. But if that is the case then those "thousands of people who don't have a problem" may just not know there's a problem or have not come across it yet, as I didn't until yesterday. And if that's the case then there is no broken and not-broken cameras only a problem that needs fixing product wide. Hence my desire to see if we can isolate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #370 Posted July 18, 2011 I'd like to ask Steelduck to reinstall the latest firmware and repeat the test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 18, 2011 Share #371 Posted July 18, 2011 Yep, mine too. But if that is the case then those "thousands of people who don't have a problem" may just not know there's a problem or have not come across it yet, as I didn't until yesterday. And if that's the case then there is no broken and not-broken cameras only a problem that needs fixing product wide. Hence my desire to see if we can isolate it. Correct, I agree. That was my point all along. The vast majority of M9 users probably have not or do not regularly exercise the functionality in question. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #372 Posted July 18, 2011 Correct, I agree. That was my point all along. The vast majority of M9 users probably have not or do not regularly exercise the functionality in question. K-H. Yet, I would argue it's a simple task the camera should be capable of doing without flinching. If we are to capture the moment the world changes it would be nice to get 8 different shots of it without loosing all of them after a freeze out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2011 Share #373 Posted July 18, 2011 To continue - to get rid of the test images I protected the few legitimate images that were on the card and hit "delete all" No problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 18, 2011 Share #374 Posted July 18, 2011 Yet, I would argue it's a simple task the camera should be capable of doing without flinching. If we are to capture the moment the world changes it would be nice to get 8 different shots of it without loosing all of them after a freeze out! We (you and I) are in complete agreement. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 18, 2011 Share #375 Posted July 18, 2011 To contimue - to get rid of the test images I protected the few legitimate images that were on the card and hit "delete all" No problem You're so cavalier Jaapv! Against all best practices and SOP's too? It's all Rock 'n Roll to you right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 18, 2011 Share #376 Posted July 18, 2011 I set out my ideas about "best practice" earlier in the thread - not deleting is not amongst them - imo deleting in the camera does not make one whit of difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelduck Posted July 18, 2011 Share #377 Posted July 18, 2011 I'd like to ask Steelduck to reinstall the latest firmware and repeat the test. I did.... Did not help.. I just lost a bunch of pictures of my kids in Tivoli.... If this would be my 5d, I would hit it with a sledgehammer, but my income does not allow me to do it for the M9. I truly hate this... I Am now waiting for the Leica to answer to my service call... Today I was using am Sandisk Ultra II, that had worked since I bought the camera.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodrog Posted July 19, 2011 Share #378 Posted July 19, 2011 I set out my ideas about "best practice" earlier in the thread - not deleting is not amongst them - imo deleting in the camera does not make one whit of difference. Couldn't disagree more, and am loath to test it for fear of more time wasted whilst I have to rescue the images, then reformat the card (unreadable in the M9) in my Mac. A complete pain the 'arris! Good luck with your deleting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 19, 2011 Share #379 Posted July 19, 2011 I did.... Did not help.. I just lost a bunch of pictures of my kids in Tivoli.... If this would be my 5d, I would hit it with a sledgehammer, but my income does not allow me to do it for the M9. I truly hate this... I Am now waiting for the Leica to answer to my service call... Today I was using am Sandisk Ultra II, that had worked since I bought the camera.. I know my questions don't help you directly, and I'm sympathetic to that. Can I ask though which file structure you're using in the camera? Also which file types you're saving? Sorry your camera has let you down - not a good situation at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 19, 2011 Share #380 Posted July 19, 2011 Couldn't disagree more, and am loath to test it for fear of more time wasted whilst I have to rescue the images, then reformat the card (unreadable in the M9) in my Mac. A complete pain the 'arris! Good luck with your deleting Been doing it for tens of thousands of shots on M 8 and M9 since 2006 Had the M9 since September 2009 and used it intensively. Never lost a shot that way. If you have that problem something is wrong and should be solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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