ho_co Posted August 31, 2011 Share #281 Posted August 31, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I didn't know that, Peter. Is the E-mount in public domain, or would someone have to pay Sony to use it? Whatever the case, I'd still expect Leica to come up with its own mount to its own specification. It's unlikely that a mount developed by another manufacturer would be as amenable to adaptation to M and R lenses as one developed in-house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peterv Posted September 1, 2011 Share #282 Posted September 1, 2011 Thanks Howard, AFAIK Sony has made the E-mount specs freely available to any third party that wants to join.* You're right that Leica will choose the mount that is most amendable to adaptation, good point.* Cheers, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 8, 2011 Share #283 Posted September 8, 2011 Canon and Nikon are losing market share in Japan. EVIL cameras are gaining market share quite fast: Canon Clinging to Mirrors Benefits Sony Cameras - Bloomberg The two Tokyo-based companies use mirrors in all cameras with interchangeable lenses, a technique Sony Corp. (6758) is shifting away from. As a result, Canon and Nikon’s combined share of the Japanese market has fallen by 35 percent, while Sony’s share has doubled, according to estimates at research firm BCN Inc. R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted September 8, 2011 Share #284 Posted September 8, 2011 makes sense. isn't the design root of the mirrorless digital, the x1 even, the ur leica? i wrote in an early post in this thread that this is the moment when leica can leapfrog ahead of the competition because, in essence, the digital world is working towards their strengths. we will see whether they seize the moment with design and adequate supply and quality control or not. if not, they have no one to blame but themselves. the market is there waiting for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reading Posted September 8, 2011 Share #285 Posted September 8, 2011 ...but at the same time not too small... Really small only works with a bit of mass, like the Rollei 35. Too small and too light is downright unpleasant to use, particularly with larger or longer lenses. Regards, Bill I disagree with this statement the Olympus XA was a fantastic rangefinder camera, possibly one of the best for reportage. It was tough, black almost compleaty silent with surperb optics. It was too expensive fir most people so had a small market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted September 8, 2011 Share #286 Posted September 8, 2011 I disagree with this statement the Olympus XA was a fantastic rangefinder camera, possibly one of the best for reportage. It was tough, black almost compleaty silent with surperb optics. It was too expensive fir most people so had a small market. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 8, 2011 Share #287 Posted September 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I disagree with this statement the Olympus XA was a fantastic rangefinder camera, possibly one of the best for reportage. It was tough, black almost compleaty silent with surperb optics... I had one and a Rollei 35 SE as well. Focusing the latter and its Sonnar 40/2.8 was not simple at all due to the lack of rangefinder. But the Sonnar was so good that i felt it could compete with my Summicron 35 v4 then. The 35/2.8 of the XA was not bad at all but flared a lot and it was impossible to fit a hood on it if memory serves so i ended up using the Rollei only as a backup for my M4-2. FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted September 9, 2011 Share #288 Posted September 9, 2011 I disagree with this statement the Olympus XA was a fantastic rangefinder camera, possibly one of the best for reportage. It was tough, black almost compleaty silent with surperb optics. It was too expensive fir most people so had a small market. I also had significant reservations about this lovely looking little camera. I found the rangefinder patch difficult to see, and I found its base length was barely adequate even given the relatively wide angle lens. The lens was reasonably good, but my wife bought me my first Leica - a Minilux 40/2, and it simply blew the XA lens away; I never used the XA again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 16, 2011 Share #289 Posted September 16, 2011 I (just) hope it will be a machine that will focus upon subjects closer than .7m. If it doesn't, for me at least, it's no use. I don't "always" shoot macro but I do it a lot. Also, a machine that will "reasonably" print a 24 inch image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
framestore Posted September 16, 2011 Share #290 Posted September 16, 2011 I can't wait to see the Mini M. I will be the first person to buy it ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted September 16, 2011 Share #291 Posted September 16, 2011 This may - or may not be germaine. I don't know much about the line of Leica cine lenses, except for the fact that they must be smaller than the M line and also extremely high optical quality. Could they - with some potential mounting modification - form the basis for a new smaller compact line? I'm not sure how much auto-focus is an issue for true Leicaphiles. While certainly a high quality, auto-focus, view-finder based, heavy (no make that sturdy), flexible new offering would be a market factor, but only if priced within a 2x-3x ratio to some of the very capable m4/3 things available now or soon. If you're looking at a system "between the x and the m" that starts in the 4-5K range, I think you're eliminating 80% of the potential and most of the other 20% would be cannibalizing M sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted September 17, 2011 Share #292 Posted September 17, 2011 The AF will be a critical factor in my decision. Hence I do not see this new offering affecting the M series. Rangefinder enthusiasts will still stick with the Ms, pp who want AF the new line. I think it is timely and sensible for leica to develop this new line, and am eagerly waiting for it. CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted September 17, 2011 Share #293 Posted September 17, 2011 It would certainly have a much broader appeal - if not the profit margins - than the S system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted October 5, 2011 Share #294 Posted October 5, 2011 Fujifilm confirms a new mirrorless system for the spring of 2012: Fujifilm confirma el desarrollo de su CSC - DSLR Magazine . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted October 5, 2011 Share #295 Posted October 5, 2011 I expect Leica to choose a 24x36 format for their mirrorless system... and M mount... The mirrorless APS-C market is becoming more than hot... it is boiling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted October 5, 2011 Share #296 Posted October 5, 2011 Since AF will likely be included the sensor will move to AF? CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 5, 2011 Share #297 Posted October 5, 2011 Since AF will likely be included the sensor will move to AF? Unlikely. I suppose there will be a new line of AF lenses and a new mount; M lenses could still be used with an adapter (and manual focusing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted October 5, 2011 Share #298 Posted October 5, 2011 This may - or may not be germaine. I don't know much about the line of Leicacine lenses, except for the fact that they must be smaller than the M line and also extremely high optical quality. Could they - with some potential mountingmodification - form the basis for a new smaller compact line?.................... You must have had a 'senior moment ' , you posted a similar comment a while back in this which was answered by a couple of people at the time. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1766334-post171.html Leica C's are much, much larger than Leica M lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janki Posted October 5, 2011 Share #299 Posted October 5, 2011 I expect Leica to choose a 24x36 format for their mirrorless system... and M mount... The mirrorless APS-C market is becoming more than hot... it is boiling! Precisely, - the mirror less APS-C market begins more and more to look like the proverbial shark pool. And that is as known, - according to Leica, - not anything for them. Let us have a camera with a FF sensor. We Leica fans are niche people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 5, 2011 Share #300 Posted October 5, 2011 Leica has one FF camera already, the M9. It won't be cannibalized by the mirorless camera expectedly so the latter should be APS-C or APS-H most probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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