01af Posted June 16, 2011 Share #21 Posted June 16, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) According to this site: Verrekijker Show Aanbiedingen, "QM2 Leica models are new with full warranty. with possible minor cosmetic defects in the lining of the viewer."—i. e. factory seconds. Oh yes, indeed. Is that a Dutch dealer thing or does this "QM2" designation officially come from Leica Camera AG? Anyway—when it comes from a serious and honorable dealer then I'd say it's a good opportunity to get a Leica product at a reduced price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 16, 2011 Posted June 16, 2011 Hi 01af, Take a look here anyone hear about "QM2" version of Leica lens.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted June 16, 2011 Share #22 Posted June 16, 2011 He is a lens dealer.A lens dealer:confused: No cameras etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 16, 2011 Share #23 Posted June 16, 2011 does this "QM2" designation officially come from Leica Camera AG? . I doubt it. Afaik Leica does not sell seconds. Dodgy. I have never heard of the shop before I googled it today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 16, 2011 Share #24 Posted June 16, 2011 ... so indeed, if designates a "slightly defective" product... could simply mean Question Mark 2... "I have bought a Summilux... ??" A serious manufacturer doesn't sell such items : it's a marketing tool for vendors of "Persian" tapestry and out-of-date Christmas cakes sold in January... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted June 17, 2011 Share #25 Posted June 17, 2011 In the USA (and maybe elsewhere) Leica sells "Code U" products - which are cameras and lenses (and probably sports optics as well) that have never been sold, but have been used. Things like the sales reps' demo equipment, trade show samples, bodies from the "a la carte" samples kits, etc. 1 year warranty, 70-80% of the "new" retail price. I got a "Code U" 35 f/1.4 ASPH (non-FLE) for $3,100 just 4 months ago. Couldn't resist at that price. The shop where I work now got a Code U 75 Summarit about the same time - LNIB but with a reduced warranty and price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2011 Share #26 Posted June 17, 2011 Yes, but those are factory demos and refurbs, which Leica makes sure they are 100% up to specificati on, and not seconds, which by definition are out of spec, but "good enough " Leica would never sell those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 18, 2011 Share #27 Posted July 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought I would revive this thread because the store where I work did, indeed, get an offer from our Leica rep last week for several "QM2" (she used the exact phrase) lenses. We took a 28 EM ASPH and a 50 f/2.5 Summarit (the 50 sold Saturday) And they are - essentially - "factory seconds". Items never used, but with some minor cosmetic flaw. Come with full new Leica warranty (unlike Code U demo or refurbished equipment) - and a 10% price discount. I inspected the two lenses we got, and can't actually see a flaw, myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted July 19, 2011 Share #28 Posted July 19, 2011 QM2,3,4 are Leica designations for the quality of ex-demo items released to dealers for sale. QM2 is the best and numbered upwards by decreasing quality. We had some QM4 in the shop the other week and the quality was such that we could not see any flaws at all. Full warranty applies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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