andybarton Posted June 7, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is the 0.58 viewfinder intrinsically more delicate than a standard 0.72? I can't see why. My brand new, a-la-carte MP with it's 0.58 had to go back to Solms two days after I bought it because the rangefinder was misaligned. It came back having had €320 of work done. Now, only a few weeks later, the rangefinder is off again. This has had only light use and is properly looked after. It will be going back to Solms again, when I get back to the UK. Neither my M2, nor my M7, treated just as well, have ever had their rangefinders adjusted. I think I have a Friday camera. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wattsy Posted June 7, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 7, 2011 Disappointing to hear that. In what way is the RF going off - vertical adjustment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted June 7, 2011 Yes. If I knew how to do it, and had the right tool, I'd do it myself, but I shouldn't have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted June 7, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 7, 2011 Is the 0.58 viewfinder intrinsically more delicate than a standard 0.72? I can't see why. [ . . . ] It came back having had €320 of work done. [. . . ] QUOTE] Did you have to pay for the work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted June 7, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 7, 2011 I had to have one of my MP rangefinders (0.72) adjusted when I dropped it rather violently. Otherwise, they've been pretty tough. Sorry to hear you've had trouble with yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted June 7, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 7, 2011 Yes. If I knew how to do it, and had the right tool, I'd do it myself, but I shouldn't have to. Vertical Line Focus Adj Tool F/ Leica M4-2 M4p M6 M7 MP | eBay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted June 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Did you have to pay for the work? No. It was only 2 days old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted June 7, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 7, 2011 I'd 'stress' the fact that this camera is going back to Solms for the same reason that has happened in a matter of a few weeks apart and that this shouldn't be!!! Wouldn't touch it myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted June 7, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 7, 2011 I'd 'stress' the fact that this camera is going back to Solms for the same reason that has happened in a matter of a few weeks apart and that this shouldn't be!!! Agreed. I've owned more M cameras than I should have and haven't had a problem with vertical adjustment over many years of use. I posted the ebay link more as a tongue-in-cheek reference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted June 7, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 7, 2011 .... I know I know .... Just in case Andy got tempted to do it himself ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 7, 2011 Share #11 Posted June 7, 2011 Hi Andy It is probably an 'infant death' problem, I'd not be concerned. You need to set the rfdr up at (at least) three points even if you are careless like me. Dont see why they told you it was x euro... I'll stroke it on the next outing with permission. Farnz had a different problem with his. Hope it does not repeat. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 7, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 7, 2011 Simply unacceptable... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 7, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 7, 2011 The basic design for all the RFs are the same, if they weren't the lenses would need calibration for .58, .62, .72, .85 or .91 magnification depending on the camera. The only difference should be in the magnification of the VF optics. My first M, an M4-P, came with vertical RF misalignment from the factory when new. The PJ I bought the camera from hadn't bothered to have it fixed, but it annoyed me too much that I had a local tech fix it for me - took him less than two minutes. It was fine after that. Never had an RF go misaligned on me as a result of normal use. It shouldn't, ever. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Greenwell Posted June 7, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 7, 2011 I am sorry to hear that your MP has given you trouble. I bought a new M7 a few months ago, straight out of the box I inserted the batteries, but the on/off switch was faulty. When I finally got power on after several attempts, I fitted a lens and straight away realised that the focus was out of line. I sent it back to the dealer and ordered another one. The next one that I received, switched on/off okay and the focussing was fine but when the film speed was set to DX no good, it works fine when I set the speed by hand which is how I always do it. I should have sent it back but really could not face another period waiting for a repair/replacement as it takes very good pictures. I wonder if because Leica are making cameras and lenses in batches when they switch from one product to another they are a bit rusty at the first few assemblies and we are the unfortunate ones who get these, as for quality control what on earth happens, do they actually check each item or is it done randomly. Regards Rupert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 7, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 7, 2011 I am sorry to hear that your MP has given you trouble. I bought a new M7 a few months ago, straight out of the box I inserted the batteries, but the on/off switch was faulty. When I finally got power on after several attempts, I fitted a lens and straight away realised that the focus was out of line. I sent it back to the dealer and ordered another one. Hi Two days is probably a dealer problem rather than Solms. I'd expect Andy expressed his dissappointment, to his dealer. The dealer is supposed to address this with Solms. I know my dealer frequents this fora... The M viewfinders have been changed over the years Leica M5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as Wiki seems to think, and Contax II from '36 (& later Kiev) also use glue but they dont need adjusting often, even if you drop, pigs to rebuild. Noel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted June 7, 2011 I took it back to the dealer who had it collected by Leica and it was returned to me within 10 days, including the May Bank Holiday. The €320 included adjusting the shutter times... It will go back, via the dealer, on my return. Very disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 7, 2011 Share #17 Posted June 7, 2011 Do you have your M7 with you? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted June 7, 2011 No. I didn't see the need... I do have the D700, though. That's never let me down The MP is usable, but every time you look through the viewfinder it pisses you off. And the DR Summicron isn't playing nicely with it either. Have taken a total of one roll of film, since Friday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 7, 2011 Share #19 Posted June 7, 2011 Bollocks. Words will be had upon your return, I do not doubt. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 7, 2011 Share #20 Posted June 7, 2011 Hi Andy Sorry no fun even with friendly dealer. I normally carry three bodies not because they fail, more frequently I have a film tear off a reel or cassette jam in camera, or tear a sprocket hole etc and can use the other two until I find a darkroom. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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