abrewer Posted May 24, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) After spending the morning looking in the Digital Forums I began to suffer symptoms of grain withdrawal There's still a lot to be said in favor of film capture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 Hi abrewer, Take a look here There's still a lot to be said. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
too old to care Posted May 24, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 24, 2011 A few weeks ago I shot a photo of a friends Model A for him. I used my now sold 5D2 and my M6 with Plus X. He wanted a B&W photo. I printed a photo from the Canon and he complained that it looked too modern, not like what a photo of a car built in the late 20's early 30's should look like. Today I showed him a print from the M6 and he complained about the grain. Go figure. My preference, I like the grain. Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted May 24, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 24, 2011 Yes I know the type of problem. Try again with TMAX 100 no grain visible for small/medium prints? Try one with some vignetting and sepia tone to give the 1930s feel or make it a square or 5x4 ratio crop. Or try Velvia 100 or Astia 100 and desaturate to give monochrome but with no grain. I initially thought you meant the Leica model A, http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Leica_I_(model_A) not the Ford Model A?? Maybe a very shallow DOF is also what your friend expects from a 10x8 plate camera of the day. I guess your Leica quality is too good. Print on card instead of photo paper or put the photo in your clothes wash then leave out in the sun to dry? Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted May 25, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 25, 2011 First is 5D2, second M6. Too smooth (modern) from Canon, too grainy (old) from Leica. He also complained that the car blended into the background too much in the Canon shot. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/152491-theres-still-a-lot-to-be-said/?do=findComment&comment=1681809'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 25, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 25, 2011 After spending the morning looking in the Digital Forums I began to suffer symptoms of grain withdrawal Unless someone is shooting Delta 3200 at 12,800 and developing in Rodinal, should you really be able to see much grain in a 800-960 pixel image? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 25, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2011 Unless someone is shooting Delta 3200 at 12,800 and developing in Rodinal, should you really be able to see much grain in a 800-960 pixel image? Hi Steve Tried 3200 @1600 Rodinal 1:100 there was some grain, as you seem to suggest, did not get that much shadow detail. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) First is 5D2, second M6. Too smooth (modern) from Canon, too grainy (old) from Leica. He also complained that the car blended into the background too much in the Canon shot. Maybe time to tell your friend to poke it where the sun doesn't shine (or words to that effect). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted May 26, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 26, 2011 Some years ago I had a complaint that emailed pics scanned from films were "too grainy". Someone else said they "weren't sharp enough". Leica lens,100 ISO slide film? Actually they were fine. Trouble is some people (too young to even remember film) use software such as Irfanview to view pictures. Open the pics in another program and they look much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 26, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 26, 2011 After spending the morning looking in the Digital Forums I began to suffer symptoms of grain withdrawal There's still a lot to be said in favor of film capture ... as i said here Allan http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/182877-love-poppies-always-poppies.html that's right ! Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 26, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 26, 2011 First is 5D2, second M6. Too smooth (modern) from Canon, too grainy (old) from Leica. He also complained that the car blended into the background too much in the Canon shot. The difference is obvious ,no doubt ! Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted May 26, 2011 Unless someone is shooting Delta 3200 at 12,800 and developing in Rodinal, should you really be able to see much grain in a 800-960 pixel image? Sure I thought It was readily apparent here with 400 UC: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/sports-leisure-time/181945-indy-11-a.html#post1704246 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur Posted May 26, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 26, 2011 After spending the morning looking in the Digital Forums I began to suffer symptoms of grain withdrawal There's still a lot to be said in favor of film capture Is it only me? I don't go through the digital forums at all. I'm quite happy with my medium of choice and I'm sure they are too. Live and let live. Regards Charles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 26, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 26, 2011 Is it only me? I don't go through the digital forums at all. I'm quite happy with my medium of choice and I'm sure they are too. Live and let live. Regards Charles +1 ... Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted May 26, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 26, 2011 +1 ... Well said. +2 I used to hang around there when I had my M9 on order. After I cancelled the order (after a 5 month wait and no camera) I stopped going there. Since then I have been back to film almost exclusively for B&W and some color. I even printed "wet" yesterday, first time in about 10 years. I wanted to see the differences in a scanned negative vs one printed the old fashion way. Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 26, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 26, 2011 Your friend complains too easily. Can you find an old Brownie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvsm Posted May 27, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 27, 2011 How many people here who use film Leicas also shoot medium format film? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted May 27, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 27, 2011 Mamiya C330F was my primary camera until I got my M6 in the late 90s. Since then it only gets used a few times per year, usually for a wedding. I plan on using it more in the future. Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted May 27, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 27, 2011 6x7 and 6x12 and 5x4 Black & white. I also shoot Ektachrome in 6x7, and have a Linhof 6x7 projector which gets an airing every now and then. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 27, 2011 Share #19 Posted May 27, 2011 How many people here who use film Leicas also shoot medium format film? Moi. In a Plaubel Veriwide, Super Ikonta 6x9, and Horseman 6x12 w/35mm lens, and Hasselblad (albeit rarely for the 'blad). And very rarely a 4x5 Super Technika w/6x12 back. I also shoot Ektachrome in 6x7, and have a Linhof 6x7 projector which gets an airing every now and then. Now that is an experience I've never had. 6x7 projections must be awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted May 31, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 31, 2011 Here's a projector like mine, this one went unsold... Linhof 6x7 Projektor Projector for 6x7 and 6x6 slides | eBay John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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