hoppyman Posted May 20, 2011 Share #21 Posted May 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I should have explained that nothing on that table is mine, nor the table! I was visiting a good friend who is in indeed well stocked but does use all of his Leica gear to excellent effect. I did shoot that with my Summilux 35 ASPH though Completely off original topic, handling the big fast R teles on the R9/DMR was a revelation for me! Lars, on bo-ke no arguments from me on what you have said. What I was trying to illustrate by my linked examples and the posted picture is that the new Summilux is also perfectly capable of producing smooth out of focus backgrounds (taking into account developing too) and that the factors I mentioned do affect what is seen in individual photographs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Hi hoppyman, Take a look here New 35mm Summilux asph owners. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Xmas Posted May 20, 2011 Share #22 Posted May 20, 2011 Anyone who finds the SX FLE 'clinical' can go find a used 35mm SX pre-ASPH of 1961, and roll in coma, flare, veiling glare and general softness to his heart's content. – Below is a photo taken with the current 35 SX FLE. It demonstrates the degree of flare – very well controlled, but one might think it atmospheric. Hi Lars Please can you say what aperture you used and where the sun was. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted May 20, 2011 Share #23 Posted May 20, 2011 I don't have the FLE but do have both the Lux asph (the previous version with the focus shift reputation) and the Cron asph. I passed on the Lux asph FLE with input from Lars and Hoppyman and since my copy of the Lux asph has very manageable focus shift that is not an issue in practice. The renderings of the Lux asph and Cron are very similar as well. Not a surprise since they are both similar to the FLE version. The Cron can be too "clinical" especially when photographing ladies, so I prefer the Lux on those occasions. At f1.4 the Lux is still very sharp but due to the shallower dof it gives the impression of being a little softer to my eyes, especially in portraits. Other than that the Cron has less CA and a little better corner sharpness, but the Lux is my favorite and stays on my M9 most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted May 20, 2011 Share #24 Posted May 20, 2011 Hi Lars Please can you say what aperture you used and where the sun was. Noel That was a mid-aperture, probably 5.6. The sun is just above the right upper corner of the picture; the sky was quite hazy, nearly overcast. I don't dare think of what would have happened if I had used the current 50mm Summicron! The old man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted May 20, 2011 Share #25 Posted May 20, 2011 ... I don't dare think of what would have happened if I had used the current 50mm Summicron! The old man Well, of course it would have given you that genuine Zorn Midsummer Vigil atmosphere.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 20, 2011 Share #26 Posted May 20, 2011 That was a mid-aperture, probably 5.6. The sun is just above the right upper corner of the picture; the sky was quite hazy, nearly overcast. I don't dare think of what would have happened if I had used the current 50mm Summicron! The old man Thanks Lars and Per too. I have a cron type IV and a pre asp lux single coated 35m so I understand the message. Low sun shots are always difficult, even without handicaps, we dont get as much low angle as you guys do though. I do lke the shot as well. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfx Posted May 20, 2011 Share #27 Posted May 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't. Exemplify, please! OK, my literary taste runs to the slightly drastic, but in a friendly mood. I have never hit anybody with a camera, not even when I used a Mamiya 23, when the results might have been fatal ... I just call the shots as I see them. Used to be cal. 357. The old man in his rocking chair Fair enough, Lars. All of these lenses are superb IMO. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted May 21, 2011 Share #28 Posted May 21, 2011 Well, of course it would have given you that genuine Zorn Midsummer Vigil atmosphere.... I fear not. That painting is veiled in a hazy light all over. The 'cron would probably have given me a rectangular, fairly sharply delineated patch of fog in the lower half of the picture. Also, it was the Skansen Autumn Market ... The old man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted May 21, 2011 Share #29 Posted May 21, 2011 I should have explained that nothing on that table is mine, nor the table! I was visiting a good friend who is in indeed well stocked but does use all of his Leica gear to excellent effect.I did shoot that with my Summilux 35 ASPH though Hi Geoff, Just checking you know I was joking. As you know I love my Summilux 35 ASPH too, and agree with your comments! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted May 21, 2011 Share #30 Posted May 21, 2011 [ATTACH]258545[/ATTACH] Might want to spread the gear more evenly on that table... This looks dangerous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted May 21, 2011 Share #31 Posted May 21, 2011 Might want to spread the gear more evenly on that table... This looks dangerous Exactly my first reaction, too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 21, 2011 Share #32 Posted May 21, 2011 Might want to spread the gear more evenly on that table... This looks dangerous .. either that, or get more gear such that more of the table is covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 21, 2011 Share #33 Posted May 21, 2011 Tony, I have previously owned the 35 Summicron ASPH and now have had the new Summilux for 10 months. Both are capable of superb results of course..... Geoff, I am merely an observer of this discussion but I would like to comment on the four pictures you linked to your posting. Excellent though they may be, not one was taken at a wider aperture than f'/4. Two were taken at f/8 and f/11. I cannot help thinking that the Summicron version could have done just as well. The dusk shot surely called for f/1.4 since depth of field was hardly an issue. (Actually taken at 1/2 second @ f/4). I hope OP doesn't object to this practical analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted May 21, 2011 Share #34 Posted May 21, 2011 Hi David I think that those comments are perfectly on topic and of interest in the discussion. Certainly a 35 Summicron ASPH would have given me equally good results in those situations. I'll see about some wide open examples for you. These were just meant to add some actual samples since the lens is uncommon. They are also intended to illustrate the bo-ke in those specific scenarios since bo-ke comes up in these discussions too. Sometimes I use the lens wide open, much more commonly not. I like to have the capability for when I need/want it.That applies to each of my fast lenses of course. The last shot was pre-dawn and the longer exposure gave me the movement of the tree on left and I wanted to extend DoF right to the foreground objects. It was part of a series including some stitched panoramas. As the dawn light increased the DoF became progressivly more significant too. Here are a couple that are stitched panoramas at moderate apertures. I wanted front to back sharpness (largish file) actually about one quarter cropped from the centre of about 12 stitched exposures LARGE FILE photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com This night shot is from 2 second exposures Surfers night Pano photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Surfers day Pano photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Geoff, I am merely an observer of this discussion but I would like to comment on the four pictures you linked to your posting. Excellent though they may be, not one was taken at a wider aperture than f'/4. Two were taken at f/8 and f/11. I cannot help thinking that the Summicron version could have done just as well. The dusk shot surely called for f/1.4 since depth of field was hardly an issue. (Actually taken at 1/2 second @ f/4). I hope OP doesn't object to this practical analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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