minilux55 Posted June 17, 2011 Share #401 Posted June 17, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have you heard about ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Hi minilux55, Take a look here Leica M9-P ????. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted June 17, 2011 Share #402 Posted June 17, 2011 ... yes. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 17, 2011 Share #403 Posted June 17, 2011 400 posts and counting, plus some other threads. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 17, 2011 Share #404 Posted June 17, 2011 No such thing, Seal said so, and he should know because he's already got one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 17, 2011 Share #405 Posted June 17, 2011 LAUNCELOT: Look, my liege! ARTHUR: Camelot! GALAHAD: Camelot! LAUNCELOT: Camelot! PATSY: It's only a model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted June 17, 2011 Share #406 Posted June 17, 2011 Arthur: On second thought, let’s not go to Camelot. It is a silly place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 17, 2011 Share #407 Posted June 17, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm so tired of all the M9-P rumors and gossip (and I have one on order!!!). Is it like this every time a new model is released? I thought Apple fanboys were bad, but reconnecting with Leica over the last six months, and discovering this Forum, I have to say that this group is at least as fanatical in every way (except of course we don't line up outside Leica stores days in advance of a new product release...hmmmm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 17, 2011 Share #408 Posted June 17, 2011 You're moaning about 'fanboys' and you're the one who's ordered a camera that doesn't officially exist yet?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 18, 2011 Share #409 Posted June 18, 2011 You're moaning about 'fanboys' and you're the one who's ordered a camera that doesn't officially exist yet?! Well.....................yeah..........I guess.......I sorta........did. But I just couldn't help myself, it's the only camera that matches my purple finger nail polish;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roydonian Posted June 18, 2011 Share #410 Posted June 18, 2011 Do you open your boiled egg at the sharp or the blunt end?In the matter of boiled eggs, I look to see which end of the egg the nearest Leicabore has started at, then do the opposite… To be serious (which my ‘Leicabore’ posting was never intended to be), I start my boiled egg from whatever end is uppermost when the eggcup reaches my plate, and I will readily confess that I have never met anyone I’d classify as a Leicabore (though perhaps some people I have met will consider me to be one). Carrying a Leica makes one a member of the world’s greatest unofficial camera club, and I have always enjoyed talking with Leica users whom I have met. With the exception of a few on-line ‘cyberbullies’ (none of whom frequent this forum), Leica users tend to be nice people to know. However, in recent years the number of Leica users one meets seems to have been dwindling. It is some years since I last met another Leica user while on holiday. The last was a Digilux 3 user sighted in Brugge in the spring of 2009. Perhaps the success of the M9 will help reverse this trend. The Nikkor is a nice lens on the M9. The 5cm f1.4 Nikkor is an interesting lens. As an experiment a few days ago, I used mine to take a photo under conditions that would cause a bit of flare. I took the same photo with the f1.5 Summarit. The Leitz lens suffered a much greater loss of the contrast than the Japanese lens, which is why I’d stopped using it with slide film. But once I’d imported both images into Photoshop and chosen suitable white and black levels, the Summarit seemed to have the edge in terms of sharpness over the Nikkor. I will have to repeat the experiment more carefully in order to try to confirm this. Best regards, Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 18, 2011 Share #411 Posted June 18, 2011 Your friends have a party Some people take pictures. Just to use it as a memory. The light is low. No problem for a X 100, or a Canon or Nikon, that several non professionals own nowadays. You have a Leica M9. For you there is a problem. You payed much more money than the others. Far more. Funny, I found myself in that exact situation a couple of weeks ago. In an old castle, extremely low light. A couple of other guests (both excellent photographers) were shooting with Cakons (one of them had a fast 1.8 lens), and I used my M9 with and 75mm lux. The results were unambiguous and unanimous, the photographs coming out of the M9 were by far superior both technically and aesthetically. I am NOT speaking about the ability of photographers here just mean the actually pictures, the way the lenses draw the images. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 18, 2011 Share #412 Posted June 18, 2011 Ian, I love my M9, but I wouldn't underestimate a Nikon D3(s,x) with a 58mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor. Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 18, 2011 Share #413 Posted June 18, 2011 Ian, I love my M9, but I wouldn't underestimate a Nikon D3(s,x) with a 58mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor. Best, K-H. To be honest, I really haven't been following Canon / Nikon offerings for a few years. I started out with a Nikon FM2, which I still have, will never sell and absolutely adored using. My post was just a response to the, in my opinion, wrong statement that was made about the M9 being problematic in a situation were Canon & Nikon cameras supposedly shine. That statement is just plain wrong. And to the author of that post, yes, I did pay more for my gear.... but I get the shots too. I would prefer to spend XXX and get shots than to spend X and not get shots. And just for the sake of completeness, the two other photographers agreed fully that the Leica came through better in this situation. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 18, 2011 Share #414 Posted June 18, 2011 Ian, I love my M9, but I wouldn't underestimate a Nikon D3(s,x) with a 58mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor. Best, K-H. I second Ian's comment - I often have shot with the M8 or a film M with fast lenses in conditions, where others have pulled the flash of their DSLRs and compacts. On some of these events, I have been asked with USB sticks poking me, if I could process images of other guests from their cameras the same, like the ones, I have presented in print and slideshows to other guests ;-) In some cases, I got weak, nodded and received the JPGs on USB, to find it extremely hard and uninspiring, to work with other peoples photos. I do have a D3 and Noct-Nikkor as well, and let me honestly tell you, that a Noctilux on any Leica rangefinder body is a far superior combination, to use and shoot fluently than any manual focus lens (especially fast lenses as the wonderful Noct) on a modern DSLR ground glass. I don't expect people at a dinner party, to unholster a D700/D3, …, to take photos in dark conditions. I am happy, to take a challenge with a X100 user any time. I know, what this sensor is capable of @ ISO3200 from the D300, I used (and sold). It looks cleaner than a M8 @ 2500, but believe me, it looks cleaner with a plastic look and total abundance of the detail and fine grain of a digital Leica M. I have held the X100 and played with it - it is a very interesting camera at a very good price point, hardly challenging a Leica X1 (really !), it has an interesting concept with it's new viewfinder, but I would take any Leica RF first - the quick and precise focussing of even the fastest of lenses, the availability of really astonishing glass and the all feel and operation of it's straight controls are far superior, not speaking about image quality. Nowadays my Nikon D3 has lost most of it's appeal to me as a user and it's arguments of usage have shrunken down to only two territories: - long lenses - the quickest of action shots (i.e. F1 cars, focus following upfront) Even for low light, I prefer now the Leica M. A week ago, I made a decision between buying a M9 and waiting indefinitely for an M9-P, which appeals more to me, as of missing engraving and dot + better LCD cover. I decided, that these mere cosmetic changes to not make good the unknown waiting time, I can use a M9 NOW, even if it should just be one or two months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 18, 2011 Share #415 Posted June 18, 2011 Ian, I agree the M9 with fast lenses works well in available light photography. So does a D3X and a Noct-Nikkor. BTW, that combination would easily set you back more than $10K. The last Noct-Nikkors were made in 1997, IIRC. I have one - it's a phenomenal performer indeed. Best, K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchris3201 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #416 Posted June 20, 2011 Leica M Special Editions | Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidomo Posted June 20, 2011 Share #417 Posted June 20, 2011 Leica M Special Editions | Leica Thanks and that is precisely the point: The M9P is just a special edition, not an update to the M9. All the fuss about the M9P just goes to show that people are waiting for a real update, technologically the M9P is a 2 year old camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 20, 2011 Share #418 Posted June 20, 2011 ...technologically the M9P is a 2 year old camera. Quelle horreur! How unacceptable! Of course when it hits 2 1/2 it self-destructs! In the meantime it has had no firmware updates (at least none that can be installed by a middle-aged man without reading the instructions) and the images it takes have degraded day by day... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #419 Posted June 20, 2011 Quelle horreur! How unacceptable! Of course when it hits 2 1/2 it self-destructs! In the meantime it has had no firmware updates (at least none that can be installed by a middle-aged man without reading the instructions) and the images it takes have degraded day by day... Regards, Bill Naah Bill, don't ridicule this - he has got a point. I too find it curious, that the M9-P, has rumored, might not show only cosmetic changes over the M9. At a 2 year pause between original introduction and "face lift" one can reasonably expect an improvement beyond this. A nice example are Nikon's Dx pro body cycles (the D3 -> D3s development obviously has been a major haul) - here nikon introduces a major new flagship model and one to two years later (just a year or so before the next major model) a model refresh by software upgrades, buffer upgrades, slight ergonomic changes, bug fixes, etc. Users can expect a functional upgrade over the older model. There won't be a special addition for swapping some production cost by leaving a front engraving and Leica dot, replacing it with a top engraving, changing a powder coating finish to chrome plating and changing to a more expensive LCD cover for a total higher margin on the same camera. I really expect the new camera, to bring also some functional changes - otherwise, it would be not worth the buzz in my view. As the purely cosmetic changes is to be the expected major upgrade, I decided a week ago, to pick up a standard M9 and am very happy with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted June 20, 2011 Share #420 Posted June 20, 2011 How long has the iPhone 4 been out? Now they have brought out a white one... I think this is a runout, pure and simple. A shot in the arm to M9 sales to tide over until the M10. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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