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OK, I just think we can replace agitate and/or invert by rotating and pulling up 'n down the spiral.

 

Not exactly so IMHO. I'd limit to replace agitate with either rotating and pulling up 'n down the spiral, but would actually invert.

 

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Bruno

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Hi Vo

 

If your tap water is really hard and you kettle needs descaling then you may need to use deionised water for a final rinse, with a drop of detergent in it.

 

You can reuse this water so it is not a great expense.

 

If when you hang up the film to dry you run the film between thumb and 1st finger to wipe water off it that may also help.

 

I moved house to a soft water area, and use a proper film squeegee, though people will say this is exposed to scratches, Ilford recommend...

 

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If you are going to ask Jessops etc to scan your film, make sure you don't cut the film first and make sure they turn off the digital dust remover function.

 

I have just chopped it off..... :((

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Hi Vo

 

Dont have a spare enlarger or scanner myself but other people may have one, I was thinking of free myself... come and pick up, all mine are in pieces being mended.

 

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Hi Andy

 

Can trhe classifieds do I wanna buy a cheap scanner, or enlarger even?

 

Noel

 

Of course. Just use WTB at the beginning of the advert title.

 

New Plustek scanners are on the shelf in Jessops, btw.

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There is a long thread here about people's experiences with Plusteks.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/153571-plustek-7600i-se-very-good-money.html

 

I don't use one myself, as I have a Nikon Coolscan, but the results are very good, especially when considering the price.

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1. Can I use tap water to mix film developer? (Tap water may contains some types of chemicals like: Clo, Fluoride)

 

Yes you can, I use tap water

 

2. Can I use the woody stick to stir the powder?

 

Woody stick? You can use anything to mix the chemicals

 

3. Should I put 20C water to warm the tank up before I put developer into tank?

 

Not necessary, although some people do this (perhaps if you are using a steel tank and the ambient temperature is much lower than 20C)

 

4. After fixer, should I put some soap and use tap water to clean film in the tank?

 

NO!!!

 

5. Do we hang the wet film immediately or need something to dry it before hanging out?

 

Preference. I use a piece of kitchen paper to quickly wipe excess water off then hang to dry. You can use rubber squeegee's but must make sure they are totally clean to avoid scratching your film.

 

6. Do we need agitation in Bath Stop and Fixer?

 

Yes - just follow the instructions

 

There's a really good guide on the Ilford website http://www.ilfordphoto.com/applications/page.asp?n=31

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I did try scan with my scanner in my company (Epson perfect... 1660 ). The result is horrible. Do you think it is because of scanner or something else? I used Epson software to scan.

The 1st one is original one.

The 2nd one is photoshop one.

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Nothing wrong with those at all. especially for a first film. Nice one!

 

You always need to do some curves etc adjustment, just as you would with any digital file, and in an enlarger.

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Nothing wrong with those at all. especially for a first film. Nice one!

 

You always need to do some curves etc adjustment, just as you would with any digital file, and in an enlarger.

 

Thank Andy!

I forgot to take UV/IR filter out. I don't think it make a big change in this photo.

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You can process C-41 B&W films in regular B&W developers as well. I love XP2 in Diafine and Rodinal.

 

Now that is quite interesting. Got time and temperature recommendations? ISO?

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Why do you call that horrible, Vo?

From what I can see from the first version the grays are all there, meaning that you exposed properly.

Both images are a bit jammed sharpness wise, but that's the fault of the scanner, most likely a flatbed, therefore not the best choice as to film scanning. Also resizing doesn't help.

The second version is better. Maybe and I stress maybe it could be better with a little, very little contrast less. Probably has more to do with my monitor rather than the image itself.

 

But apart from that I second Andy's opinion: nothing wrong and remarkable for being your first film. From now on you'll see the process will become easier and easier as you'll increase your dexterity and it'll become more challenging when you'll want to extend your limits and squeeze something more from your films. At that stage a whole world of possibilities will disclose before you.

 

Cheers,

Bruno

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Why do you call that horrible, Vo?

From what I can see from the first version the grays are all there, meaning that you exposed properly.

Both images are a bit jammed sharpness wise, but that's the fault of the scanner, most likely a flatbed, therefore not the best choice as to film scanning. Also resizing doesn't help.

The second version is better. Maybe and I stress maybe it could be better with a little, very little contrast less. Probably has more to do with my monitor rather than the image itself.

 

But apart from that I second Andy's opinion: nothing wrong and remarkable for being your first film. From now on you'll see the process will become easier and easier as you'll increase your dexterity and it'll become more challenging when you'll want to extend your limits and squeeze something more from your films. At that stage a whole world of possibilities will disclose before you.

 

Cheers,

Bruno

Hi Bruno.

 

Yes, it is a flatbed scanner. it is very very old and cheap one Epson 1660 ....

 

I called "horrible" because I expected the contrast and sharpness look like when you use digital. Maybe I was wrong. For contrast and sharpness, I think it depends on scanner. Is that correct? If I print that on paper from film, I think the result will be better.

 

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Hi Vo

 

Life is not that simple mono film is normally longer scale (range) then a scean so you capture data but the print is much shorter scale, so the negative needs to be processed for a nice print.

 

If you are using slow film for high quality e.g. PanF it is short scale (contrasty) and will have trouble with shadows and highlights at the same time.

 

The straight prints from a scan of a film (or wet prints) are for proof, If you want a print for exibition wall you need to manipulate in photoshop (or by burning and dodging and variable contrast paper for wet printing).

 

Fine art printing is a subject in itself.

 

But tick VG for the darkroom processing, more then one has struggled with ID-11.

 

Noel

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