mhanke Posted January 31, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The absolutely breathtaking black and white shots of Bilbao and the Guggenheim Museum, posted here by Jan Scheffner (telewatt) motivated me to make a detour to Bilbao, in spite of a pressing timeplan. At least a few pics from the museum's outside should be made. They are far behind Jan's work, but maybe you like them anyway. Â M6, CV 5.6/12mm, Velvia 100F Â Â Â Â Regards, Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Hi mhanke, Take a look here Guggenheim, Bilbao. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jmr Posted January 31, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Marcus, Â dramatic shots, nicely composed. Personally, I'd like to see more contrast, but they're really good shots as posted - thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted January 31, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Marcus - Â The angles you have chosen conspire with the very active sky and seemingly in-motion architecture to produce superb studies. Number one is so good, it knocks your socks off, as we say over hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 31, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted January 31, 2007 It really is a remarkable buiding and well worth the detour. The old coast road from San Sebastian is also very pretty and worth a trip. Â I was here a couple of years ago, but only had Canon glass on my dSLR, so no pictures. The outside is a photographer's dream, but I was disapointed, as with other spectacular modern buildings, with the inside. I was expecting more. Plus the main exhibition was of Aztec art and that interests me as little as any art can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 31, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Cripes:eek: . Pretty impressive set to come in on. Good stuff. Love the look of the velvia too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted January 31, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Nice photos! Is that the spider that was at the Tate Modern some time ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter41951 Posted January 31, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) An excellent series, the striking forms of the building enhanced by a dramatic sky. A little more contrast may help the first shot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambroving Posted February 1, 2007 Share #8 Â Posted February 1, 2007 Marcus, Â Really like the first one. You were very lucky with the light! Travel photography can be a bitch if you are not spending days at a location. Don't know how you manage that 15 so well. I'd be a disaster. Â Can you post some links to telewatt's shots? There was only one other shot posted on the old Forum of this building which I really liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 1, 2007 Share #9  Posted February 1, 2007 Can you post some links to telewatt's shots? There was only one other shot posted on the old Forum of this building which I really liked.  William. Try this one:  http://www.leica-camera-user.com/architecture/222-bilbao-spain.html  All of telewatt's new threads, with all his shots, are available here:  http://www.leica-camera-user.com/search.php?searchid=102494 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 1, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted February 1, 2007 This is a great series and I am sure that one could spend all day there and still not catch every option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 1, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted February 1, 2007 What a feast for the eye. Very striking in many senses. I agree with one comment regarding contrast. A tweak would help. Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 1, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted February 1, 2007 That shot of Telewatts is fantastic, when I was there it was very bright sunlight. Clouds always add interest. The best I could do was here... Â France and Spain - Summer 2005 Â Too stark really, but if you ever go the colour of the cladding is fantasctic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEd Posted February 4, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted February 4, 2007 Hi Marcus, That Velvia film is awesome. Love the spider! Â Thanks for sharing. Â Ed. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhanke Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share #14  Posted February 4, 2007 I fully agree with the various comments about the poor contrast. Indeed, I always have massive problems to transfer the contrast and brilliance of the slides into the digital pictures displayed on the screen, or printed on paper. Most of the pics appear to have washed out whites and blacks, lack contrast, but also loose a lot of detail in the dark areas. These pics of the Guggenheim museum in Bilbao are no exceptions, but the most drastic case was my pic of the Spanish Penafiel castle, shown in an earlier thread.  I knew that my mistake must be somewhere in my workflow, since others have very good results with the same scanner (Nikon Coolscan IV). Finally, I stumbled on an article, written by one of my nature photography idols, John Shaw. Unfortunately, I now cannot find it on the web. He wrote it when he still shot slides, and scanned them on a Nikon 4000. His scanning workflow was very straightforward, and very similar my own, with two crucial differences: He also used the digital ICE correction feature, but I realized that I was far too cautious with the sharpening setting in the scanner software itself. I had thought that all sharpening should be done as last step in Photoshop, and never really got my pics sharp without loosing details or getting unnatural looking results. I saw that John used a 20% setting of the sharpness filter in the scanning software, only to compensate the sharpness loss caused by the ICE.  The other issue was that - believing what I had heard and read in the various fora - I did not use the scanner's 12bit-capability, and scanned everything in 8bit-mode.  As soon as I tried out John Shaw's scanner settings for the first time, all my previous frustration was gone, and I suddenly saw that the scanner was capable to deliver a faithful impression of what the original slides look like. The first slide re-scanned with the new settings, was the one of the Penafiel castle:  http://www.leica-camera-user.com/landscape-travel/14942-remember-penfiel-castle.html  Some others followed, and now I also re-scanned two of the Guggenheim pictures that were - in my opinion - mostly compromised by lack of contrast and sharpness. Here are the results:    I think that improvements in contrast and sharpness are evident, the whites and blacks are better separated. The apparent change in colour is the result of a higher colour neutrality, since I had tried to improve the overall impression of the first scan by tweaking the saturation sliders.  This time, I converted the scanned pic into the Lab mode, applying the Depths/Lights function and the unsharp mask there.  Best regards, Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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