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Hi Leica friends, I have a query regarding the first done Leica I C/0 Standard mount.

 

According the lists I have Leicas with standardized mount we find in the market with serial n. lower than 60500 are converted from I Mod.A Elmar (would have 7 o'clock Elmar 3.5/5cm) or non-standard ones, but sometime some sellers talk about "original standard" cameras with serial numbers till in the 55xxx range ( also see lot 10 auction n.8, Westlicht, source is Hahne list...but this list is sometimes found wrong).

 

 

Someone here has better sources/informations?

Thanks!

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I haven't other sources than the usual ones... but imho a non standard upgraded at the factory to standard can be legitimately defined as "original" ; in general, my impression is that the transition non std-to-std. was not so straight to define a 100% certain s/n of "divide"...

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A collector in my town has a standard(ized?) IC/0 with s/n 59738... export version ("open-close" in the baseplate and Elmar in feet).

 

A question about non standards that intrigues me is this : some authors (Van Hasbroek, Laney...) say that the "first series" of IC non std. had the FULL 5 digit number on the lens(es ?)... but seems to me to to have never seen such an item, apart #37309 (Leica IC + Elmar 5) quoted by Lager... :confused:

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A collector in my town has a standard(ized?) IC/0 with s/n 59738... export version ("open-close" in the baseplate and Elmar in feet).

 

A question about non standards that intrigues me is this : some authors (Van Hasbroek, Laney...) say that the "first series" of IC non std. had the FULL 5 digit number on the lens(es ?)... but seems to me to to have never seen such an item, apart #37309 (Leica IC + Elmar 5) quoted by Lager... :confused:

Usualy they are the last 3 number :

http://www.summilux.net/avis/objectifs/Elmar135-I-vue.jpg

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Yes... and examples are rather often displayed... I wonder if this question of the full 5 digits is real or a sort of legend...

 

Not a legend at all, Luigi! My Fontenelle collection included (in 1982) a wonderful set in leather case : Leica I © nº 37380 with 13,5 cm swinging mask and Elmars 3,5, 5 and 13,5 cm, all engraved "37380" (plus FODIS, old FISON, clamp-on filters etc..). I believe it is now part of a collection in Switzerland. When I trace the photos, I'll publish them:

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I supposed YOU had something about... :)... that Fontenelle collection really had treasures (I think also to the Summilux 50 SM in another thread... ;))

 

...and you have now the photos under "Fontenelle archives 64".

Best regards, Luigi.

Pierre

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