carlosecpf Posted February 5, 2011 Share #241 Â Posted February 5, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which issue was that? Â LFI English 2010/03 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Hi carlosecpf, Take a look here X1 Firmware v2 Upgrade [Merged thread]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
bazdi Posted February 7, 2011 Share #242  Posted February 7, 2011 hi there. i'm new to this forum. i've got an information regarding this topic. i think it's worth beeing shared.  i asked leica when the firmware is going to be ready. that's what the customer support answered:  [...] Die X1 Firmware wurde laut unserem Produktmanagement für das 1. Quartal 2011 (nicht vor Ende Februar) angekündigt. Diese Angaben sind allerdings ohne Gewähr. [...]  literally translated into English it means:  [...] According to our product management the X1 firmware is beeing announced for the 1st quarter of 2011 (not before the end of February). However there's no responsibility taken for the correctness of this information. [...]  cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted February 7, 2011 Share #243  Posted February 7, 2011 If you can make a perfect assessment of the camera after trying it for a couple of minutes at the store, kudos to you. I just cannot.  Well no, I don't think anyone can make a perfect assessment in those circumstances, it takes time to master anything new and not everything works as you expect. I only speak for myself here but after reading all the reviews I could and after owning a Fuji S3 I knew what a slow to operate camera feels like but was pleasantly surprised that the X1 wasnt anywhere near as bad as some people made out it was. Its not my only camera though. I have a fast responsive camera, one that will do proper macro and another with wide angle and zoom lenses. I have all bases covered but the camera I take out first is the X1. Sure I missed out on a few shots where the autofocus was just too slow, but my life or livelihood doesn't depend on it. Its a shame a lot of people couldnt get on with the camera and if they subsequently sold it then good for them, at least they gave it a shot. Not everything suits everybody, the X1 suits me.  Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted February 8, 2011 Share #244 Â Posted February 8, 2011 Sorry everyone- as it turns out, firmware v2.0 is only for trade show floor models. Â Actual purchasers get v1.0. Â If you want a fast X1 go to your nearest trade show. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosecpf Posted February 9, 2011 Share #245 Â Posted February 9, 2011 Not everything suits everybody, the X1 suits me. Â I totally agree with your point. IMO, by the end of the day, this is the only point that matters. Any camera can be a great camera as long as it meets the needs of its owner. This argument kind of turn lots of gear discussion in any forum pointless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted February 9, 2011 Share #246 Â Posted February 9, 2011 There must be something in the X1 that compels people to come and post on X1 forum even after getting rid of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiILX1 Posted February 9, 2011 Share #247 Â Posted February 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) LOL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted February 9, 2011 Share #248 Â Posted February 9, 2011 I hope you'll share it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenic Posted February 9, 2011 Share #249 Â Posted February 9, 2011 Do you feel as if Leica will only release the 2.0 firmware when the X100 is out? Â To take some of their "thunder" away so to speak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted February 9, 2011 Share #250 Â Posted February 9, 2011 That's certainly a viable thought.. though I'm not sure it would be to steal thunder.. may be to ensure features aren't copied before release.. or to see if they need to scramble to include other fixes.. but yes, At this point I would be surprised to see it released before at least any major reviews dissect the x100. Â But maybe I'm cynical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 9, 2011 Share #251 Â Posted February 9, 2011 The word I am hearing is that X100 sales are way oversold. Amazon was told to stop pre-sales at 180 cameras and it isn't clear they will even get that many. Apparently there will be a long waiting list to get these so if Leica is holding back until they can impact X100 sales they will be holding back a long time. Personally, I think that would be a dumb strategy. Why make your loyal customers suffer just so you might try and effect a competitors sales. Someone that wants all of the features in the X100 is not going to buy an X1 just because they made the AF a little faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted February 10, 2011 Share #252 Â Posted February 10, 2011 The X1 is out for a year over, it is probably fuji who should be scrutinizing the competition before the release. Â leica being leica will still sit on their laurels at solms sipping cuppacino haha... Â With M9s and X1s being sold out most of the time they have a happy problem indeed. Â CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 10, 2011 Share #253 Â Posted February 10, 2011 That would be a mistake indeed, if they did that. From my sources the X100 is going to be a very hot seller as orders have way outstripped capacity and we aren't talking about some little company's capacity. Those orders and sales will be taken out of someone else's hide and that is most likely to be Leica's given where this product is targeted, though it will effect Sony, Samsung and the M4/3rds group too, but I think less so than Leica. Things can go from rosy to bleak very fast in this world of high technology. If you think not ask yourself where is DEC and CDC today. Both were multi-billion dollar companies with over 80,000 employees each world wide. They didn't think PCs would ever be competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosecpf Posted February 10, 2011 Share #254 Â Posted February 10, 2011 There must be something in the X1 that compels people to come and post on X1 forum even after getting rid of it. Â This behavior is not exclusive to the X1 camera nor X1 forum though... Lots of LUF members do that at other specific camera forums in this website. Many people want to share their experiences (good and bad) with a particular camera, regardless if they still own it or not. And believe it or not, some might even find this behavior helpful. I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted February 10, 2011 Share #255 Â Posted February 10, 2011 Personally I do not think about the red dot, I keep my X1 in a camo belt pack, no logo whatsoever. Â I like the fact that Leica has different philosophy from most camera manufacturers and stand by that. Also small quantities of relatively niche cameras. That is the allure of the brand. For me it is their IQ, lens and their control layouts and minimal functions just the ones I will really use. I use like less than half of the buttons on my DSLR for crying out loud. Â On the other hand truth is leica and the red dot has almost a mythical iconic status that many aspire to own, and on this basis like prada LV they will not be short of buyers as long as they keep exclusivity. Â Newspapers have reported last year here where one of the brands (cant remember LV, fendi or gucci) has a 45 minute spell when a group of mainland chinese tourist went to the boutique and bought US$300,000 worth of handbags....a retailer of leica also confided in me that mainland chinese tourists are leica crazy now and in their shopping frenzy during the M9 launch they were willing to fork out a $2K premium just to get ahead in the wait list. Some were asking for half a dozen cameras each. Â So I guess leica knows exactly what they are doing, not that I agree with their strategy, but they are in a different class compared to fuji/sony/nikon. They do not have to be huge to do well. And they do not need to sell truckloads of cams either. They will limit the quantity rolled out or it is simply their capacity and wait for the consumers to gobble them up. Â I wish also for nikon/canon to enter this market segment but their philosophy and business strategy is in the complete opposite direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted February 10, 2011 Share #256  Posted February 10, 2011 John, you get a major thumbs up for the DEC reference  I would have to think if this is a huge hit.. the must work on an interchangeable lens system based on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted February 10, 2011 Share #257  Posted February 10, 2011 That would be a mistake indeed, if they did that. From my sources the X100 is going to be a very hot seller as orders have way outstripped capacity and we aren't talking about some little company's capacity. Those orders and sales will be taken out of someone else's hide and that is most likely to be Leica's given where this product is targeted, though it will effect Sony, Samsung and the M4/3rds group too, but I think less so than Leica. Things can go from rosy to bleak very fast in this world of high technology. If you think not ask yourself where is DEC and CDC today. Both were multi-billion dollar companies with over 80,000 employees each world wide. They didn't think PCs would ever be competition.  It’s been about a year since the original X1 release and there is still no competition on the market. If Leica switches things up just as Fuji releases their version, they will throw the competition into a tailspin again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted February 10, 2011 Share #258 Â Posted February 10, 2011 From my sources the X100 is going to be a very hot seller as orders have way outstripped capacity and we aren't talking about some little company's capacity. Â There aren't that many places taking pre-orders in the US and I'm sure it is the same in other countries because Fuji wasn't allowing it until a day or two ago. I think they are going to ship before being at full capacity is more like it. That's not unusual... Apple, for one, does it all the time with every product... hot or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 10, 2011 Share #259 Â Posted February 10, 2011 I'm not sure what you mean by "...if Leica switches things up..." A firmware upgrade isn't going to cut it. Maybe Leica aspires to be simply an exclusivity type of manufacturer/vendor where the camera is a fashion statement rater than a photographer's tool, I don't know. If so they really need to get their quality and customer service under better control. I have purchased a few LV purses for my wife and yes, they are expensive but they are understated and the quality is nothing short of outstanding. In fact, if anything that might be more of a problem because they don't wear out as fast as fashion changes. Two years later those handbags still looks like new despite being used everyday through entire winter or summer seasons. You can't say that about any M8, M9 or X1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted February 10, 2011 Share #260 Â Posted February 10, 2011 Of course we are all expecting the X100 to be 100% perfect from day one and to live up to and above all expectations! I suspect that after all the hype if there is just one tiny issue with it, it will be slated as the worst camera with the most abysmal handling, ever made. ( where have I heard that before?) Â I hope it isn't, I hope it is as good as it is made out to be and that it will encourage competition within the ( slowly) growing APS-C size sensored compact camera market. Â Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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