Pecole Posted February 24, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few images of not very rare, but at least special lenses from the Fontenelle Collection. On the Elmax, mounted on Leica I nº 663, the datum line for orientating the lens before retracting it, is clearly visible. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The "all-chrome" 9 cm Elmar ELANG is a favourite for collectors. Lager says that it was available for a brief period in the late 1940's. He illustrates the nº 645961, ours being nº 646303 and coming with its nice light brown bakelite container. Another Elmar 9 cm, perfectly normal except for its serial number with asterisk (generally said to be used for duplicates) : 460068*. Also 90 MM and f4.5, the Wollensak Raptar like this nº 563775 was marketed by Leitz New York when the Elmar counterpart was unavailable during and immediately after the war. The Elmarit-C 1:2.8/40mm had a catalogue number (11541) but was apparently never marketed. Lager says that serial numbers 2512601 to 2513000 were attributed to the lens, which makes a total of 400 pieces. If so, it is a rare lens. Ours has nº 2512756. Introduced in 1970, the PA-Curtagon-R 35mm 1:4 allowed the optical axis to be decentered 7 mm in any direction. It was very useful to eliminate or reduce converging verticals in architecture photography, for avoiding unwanted foreground or even for panoramas. We bought a prototype made by Leitz for test purposes, it consisted of a Schneider-Kreuznach lens (serial nº 10502683) adapted with a Leicaflex mount. Our photo shows this lens on the left, compared with a normal lens with Leitz mount and serial number (nº 2816203), and engraved "Für Leicaflex". Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The "all-chrome" 9 cm Elmar ELANG is a favourite for collectors. Lager says that it was available for a brief period in the late 1940's. He illustrates the nº 645961, ours being nº 646303 and coming with its nice light brown bakelite container. Another Elmar 9 cm, perfectly normal except for its serial number with asterisk (generally said to be used for duplicates) : 460068*. Also 90 MM and f4.5, the Wollensak Raptar like this nº 563775 was marketed by Leitz New York when the Elmar counterpart was unavailable during and immediately after the war. The Elmarit-C 1:2.8/40mm had a catalogue number (11541) but was apparently never marketed. Lager says that serial numbers 2512601 to 2513000 were attributed to the lens, which makes a total of 400 pieces. If so, it is a rare lens. Ours has nº 2512756. Introduced in 1970, the PA-Curtagon-R 35mm 1:4 allowed the optical axis to be decentered 7 mm in any direction. It was very useful to eliminate or reduce converging verticals in architecture photography, for avoiding unwanted foreground or even for panoramas. We bought a prototype made by Leitz for test purposes, it consisted of a Schneider-Kreuznach lens (serial nº 10502683) adapted with a Leicaflex mount. Our photo shows this lens on the left, compared with a normal lens with Leitz mount and serial number (nº 2816203), and engraved "Für Leicaflex". ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/144954-fontenelle-archives-51-lenses-variations/?do=findComment&comment=1598715'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hi Pecole, Take a look here Fontenelle archives 51 . Lenses variations. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jpattison Posted February 24, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 24, 2011 Hi, I've had both of these 35 PA-Curtagons in the past, the Schneider had a T2-Mount fitting, with R bayonet. I used it on my M6 with an R to M adapter (for Leicina!) and took this in Chicago... By the way, it's serial number was 10472618 John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/144954-fontenelle-archives-51-lenses-variations/?do=findComment&comment=1599073'>More sharing options...
tdavis Posted March 5, 2011 Share #3 Posted March 5, 2011 Pecole, The 90 / 4 Elmar that you show with the asterisk, 450068*, is in a group listed as Elmar 95mm 1:50 in Puts Pocket Pod lens list. What is a 95mm 1:50? Some kind of enlarger lens? (Two thousand of these lenses show up in 1938 & 1939 in 4 batches of 500.) Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted March 6, 2011 Pecole,The 90 / 4 Elmar that you show with the asterisk, 450068*, is in a group listed as Elmar 95mm 1:50 in Puts Pocket Pod lens list. What is a 95mm 1:50? Some kind of enlarger lens? (Two thousand of these lenses show up in 1938 & 1939 in 4 batches of 500.) Tim Hi, Tim! Never heard about this 95mm lens, and 1:50 seems simply impossible. But as for the asterisk, it would confirm - if the Puts serial really existed - that it is applied to duplicates. Regards Pierre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 6, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 6, 2011 I tend to think that's a typo in Puts' list... "95 1:50" is too strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted March 6, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 6, 2011 Pecole,The 90 / 4 Elmar that you show with the asterisk, 450068*, is in a group listed as Elmar 95mm 1:50 in Puts Pocket Pod lens list. What is a 95mm 1:50? Some kind of enlarger lens? (Two thousand of these lenses show up in 1938 & 1939 in 4 batches of 500.) Tim ...that must be an error in my Production book Leitz Lenses "Reconstruction of the objective manufacturing by Ernst Leitz KG, Ernst leitz GmbH, and Leica Camera AG" Hartmut Thiele Elmar 4/90 800 pieces black/chrome 450.001 - 450.800 1938 regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted March 6, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 6, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) An error that occurs 3 times? From Puts List: Year From # Total To # Lens 1: f# 1938 450001 500 450500 Elmar 50 95 1938 480001 500 480500 Elmar 50 95 1939 531501 500 532000 Elmar 50 95 Perhaps a cinematographer lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted March 6, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 6, 2011 An error that occurs 3 times? From Puts List:Year From # Total To # Lens 1: f# 1938 450001 500 450500 Elmar 50 95 1938 480001 500 480500 Elmar 50 95 1939 531501 500 532000 Elmar 50 95 Perhaps a cinematographer lens? why not? The Leitz Productionbook is hand written in old writing.... ...and in my list it is right and Mr. Thiele saw the same books in the factory.. regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted March 6, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 6, 2011 I tend to think that's a typo in Puts' list... "95 1:50" is too strange Puts means with "50" "95" = 5,0/95mm regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 6, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 6, 2011 Puts means with "50" "95" = 5,0/95mm regards, Jan ... I think he means the well known Nocti Elmar 50 f 0,95... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted March 6, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 6, 2011 :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted March 7, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 7, 2011 For anyone who cares, I use my 35 and 28 PC on a Nikon FX. Fotodiox replacement bayonet makes it possible. There is a .032" metal shim between the mount and focus that contains the "null" meter indicator. You are supposed to reverse it, but then movement is limited. Leave it out and it focuses past infinity. My solution was to make a replacement from .032 plastic sheet that does not have the "null" indicator. Both are great lenses on Nikons as are all the Leica lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted March 8, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 8, 2011 why not? The Leitz Productionbook is hand written in old writing.... ...and in my list it is right and Mr. Thiele saw the same books in the factory.. regards, Jan With better eyes, I guess... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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