andybarton Posted January 27, 2007 Share #21 Posted January 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) > [4] v1.3 of the DMR's firmware is still "in the works". There have > been delays, and Leica USA do not have a firm date, at this time, for > it's introduction. However, Imacon is "working very hard" to make > the release as bug-free as possible and it is "still in the works". Wow. That firmware must be buggy on a Microsoft-scale. They have been working on it for how long? 9 months or more? If it's that bad, it's best left where it is... I, personally, don't see this statement of comfort very comforting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gdb Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share #22 Posted January 27, 2007 Well, I agree... But the most important thing is that the DMR survives, even without a new firmware. After all, 1.2 firmware hadn't much things to do with the quality of the pictures, and the DMR community never had the troubles of the M8... Gérard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted January 27, 2007 Share #23 Posted January 27, 2007 The thought of Leica removing the DMR is unbelievable. It's Leica's engineering masterpeice. Nothing out their in the market place can equall it's uniqueness and it's versatility. So why would they (Leica) even consider it in the first place. I can only think of it as nonsance, simply made by person's to undermine it's brilliance. I don't own one but my full support for the DMR is 100%. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted January 27, 2007 Share #24 Posted January 27, 2007 it may be a brick but a damn unique brick... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telyt Posted January 27, 2007 Share #25 Posted January 27, 2007 Stephen Gandy has never been a fan of the Leica R system so my guess is that he's more than willing to believe predictions of its demise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 27, 2007 Share #26 Posted January 27, 2007 Slapped wrists to him for rumour-mongering it would seem, unless he can substantiate his sources. That said, I agree with Andy that the Comfort Statement is nothing of the sort. V1.3 appeared briefly as I recall, may still be current - Rob will correct me - but if they have taken this long to get it fixed, you can assume one of the following: - V1.3 is a can of worms, and they decided that radical surgery was required, not a quick fix. - Imacon have been dragging their feet getting the work done - The person or people involved are not up to the job and are thrashing around trying to make it work. However you look at it, the customer expectation has been missed by a mile and with a key supplier now owned by a potential competitor, it's hardly a recipe for getting things done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted January 27, 2007 Share #27 Posted January 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) i for one would like to know whats in the firmware 1.3, there is room for improvemnts beyond the "warm monitor" condtion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted January 27, 2007 Share #28 Posted January 27, 2007 Agree! Talking about R10 is too early at this moment. Leica should settle the DMR users' complains before asking us to invest on an other new model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdg Posted January 28, 2007 Share #29 Posted January 28, 2007 Sorry, what`s the problem? It`s the normal way of live. As to my oppinion Leica will stop the DMR production in the very next time and the RD10 will be the next. Look at C + N and you will get a new one every year. But I think Leica will support the DMR in future as usual in the past. I was told the next firmware update should be ready in the next weeks. Regards Hans, very happy with R9 + DMR + V1.2 running Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted January 29, 2007 Share #30 Posted January 29, 2007 Thank you Hans, I take comfort in what you say as I just love my R9/DMR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted January 29, 2007 Share #31 Posted January 29, 2007 Yes, i think we all know there will be an R10, no one is suggesting the line stops with R9/DMR. What was suggested is that the product will only be supported for a "short " period of time... Ocourse we really have no idea on what leica plans from atimeframe perspective as they provide little guidence.....giving way to speculation. i think the DMR has a number of acheiveable firmware upgrades beyond the warm monitor issue with 1.2. From a hardware perspective the R9/DMR probably can not be beat - It's a wonderfully engineered , well designed, solid, reliable, state of the art piece of equipment. C & N produce bodies each year as mentioned, this has nothing to do with whether leica does or should-lesser items have more opportunities for advancement then higher quality items, thus longer life for each R model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted January 30, 2007 Share #32 Posted January 30, 2007 Information read on another forum: Leica will remove support for the Leica R Modul in the near future. Ask me since manufacturing is my game. By US law, yes one day soon but not as soon. The US law is 10 yrs. support in parts and service to all registered "OEM" electronic imports or locally manufactured electronic merchandise. This does not include grey market. Failure to do so will be banned from importing to the US. But again, grey maket is not affected by the import ban if ever occur since it never has US support to begin with and not covered by US law. Law's from outside the US and it's territories may differ. -Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted January 30, 2007 Share #33 Posted January 30, 2007 I've never doubted that Leica will continue to "support" (parts or service) the DMR even without the regulations but, I suspect that most DMR users meant to expect the original product "grow" ... either with performance enhancement or addition of new features. These are different matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canfred Posted January 30, 2007 Share #34 Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Dr. Gerard, I have had dealings with Steven Gandy and I must say he is a very honest person. However why would you take notice of any such info from him , he is not a Leica agent starting careless unfoundet rumors is just wrong. I will be sending him a message. Regards Manfred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted January 30, 2007 Share #35 Posted January 30, 2007 DMR users meant to expect the original product "grow" ... either with performance enhancement or addition of new features. These are different matters. Most that we can expect like myself owning an "end of life" D2 is when a model is discontinued to give way for a newer model, Leica may update the fimware through the 10th year. Manufacturers would rather R&D in developing new products than discontinued products. But what can I say... Leica Full Frame let it come, I'm waiting. -Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted January 30, 2007 Share #36 Posted January 30, 2007 Regards Hans, very happy with R9 + DMR + V1.2 running Well, I believe all of us are very happy with R8 or R9 + DMR, but not everyone are happy with the V1.2. That's why we do expect there will be V1.3, or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdb Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share #37 Posted January 30, 2007 Hi, Canfred! Believe me, my purpose was not to spread a rather foolish rumor, but to share my anxiety with other members. As you probably know, my R9/DMR has been hijacked in my car with my whole equipment, and I miss it badly. I intend to get a new equipment, because I quite agree with most possessors of the DMR, it is a unique piece of engeneering, and the results are more than beutiful. But financially speaking, I won't be able to get another R9/DMR before may 2008. So if the DMR is now discontinued and if a hypothetical R10 is not pursued or not available, what would be my choice ? I don't think I would feel secure with a second hand DMR. This is the reason for which I started this thread. I do not know the author of this rumor, but I am very happy with most of your answers. I will wait for whatever is available in may 2008 ! Thanks for every support! Cheers Gérard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macusque Posted January 30, 2007 Share #38 Posted January 30, 2007 Support ? Who needs DMR support ? The only support I need for my DMR is a solid (but portable) tripod... Seriously, I don't think they'll stop supporting the DMR tout court, not before the R10 will be out. But I'll continue to use the DMR even if they won't come out with a new firmware... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted January 30, 2007 Share #39 Posted January 30, 2007 Hi, Canfred! I don't think I would feel secure with a second hand DMR. Cheers Gérard Why? If it's made as well as everyone says, and you already know the camera so you could inspect it, why not? If you wanted to use R glass wouldn't it be better than nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 30, 2007 Share #40 Posted January 30, 2007 Ask me since manufacturing is my game. By US law, yes one day soon but not as soon. The US law is 10 yrs. support in parts and service to all registered "OEM" electronic imports or locally manufactured electronic merchandise. This does not include grey market... ...or apparently US companies' own products. Hewlett-Packard have just told me there are no parts available to fix my 3 year old scanner and the only solution is to buy one. Fortunately, the 32 year old HP calculator I use every day was higher quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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