WarriorJazz Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share #101 Posted February 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got my M6! Really good to walk around with film again. One minor detail. I have to get used to it's viewfinder. The patch is a bit brighter than the one from the M8. Or could this be the flare issue? Or just a different viewfinder. Develop my first roll tomorrow :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keith (M) Posted February 18, 2011 Share #102 Posted February 18, 2011 Processed my first roll of film for over 20 years today. A tad more fiddly than I remember. The good thing is that I actually had some useable results from my newly acquired M7 - phew! HP5+ in Ilfosol 3 1+9 for 6mins 30secs. In future I shall be splitting my photographic efforts analogue/digital depending on subject and my mood of the day, but at the moment the lure of film is pulling me along... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 19, 2011 Share #103 Posted February 19, 2011 Just got my M6! Really good to walk around with film again. One minor detail. I have to get used to it's viewfinder. The patch is a bit brighter than the one from the M8. Or could this be the flare issue? Or just a different viewfinder. Develop my first roll tomorrow The range finder spots can be bright and high contrast, dont think that is flare, when they flare the whole patch turns 'white', a light source to right hand side of view (by 45 degrees) and 45 degrees above the horisontal, normally flares the spot, a window indoors or sun outside will do. It only annoys some people. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorJazz Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share #104 Posted February 19, 2011 The range finder spots can be bright and high contrast, dont think that is flare, when they flare the whole patch turns 'white', a light source to right hand side of view (by 45 degrees) and 45 degrees above the horisontal, normally flares the spot, a window indoors or sun outside will do. It only annoys some people. Noel Thanks Noel, I just walked trough the house and outside and tested the viewfinder. I could simulate 2 situations where the patch turned white. Shooting from indoor/shade outside and like you explained a situation with a bright light source. I sometimes found it difficult to focus with this camera. I tested it with the viewfinder on my M8 and you can see that that one is much better. Maybe I need to get used to this. If it keeps on irritation me or preventing me from getting focussed shots than I need to send it of for an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted February 19, 2011 Share #105 Posted February 19, 2011 Thanks Noel, I just walked trough the house and outside and tested the viewfinder. I could simulate 2 situations where the patch turned white. Shooting from indoor/shade outside and like you explained a situation with a bright light source. I sometimes found it difficult to focus with this camera. I tested it with the viewfinder on my M8 and you can see that that one is much better. Maybe I need to get used to this. If it keeps on irritation me or preventing me from getting focussed shots than I need to send it of for an upgrade. I experienced this in similar conditions. I've not noticed a problem since introducing the sticky tape. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snapper Posted February 22, 2011 Share #106 Posted February 22, 2011 I dumped digital about a year ago, kit was just far too heavy, caused me such serious back and neck pains that can't work full time any longer. Only use my Nikon D700's for work where clients won't pay film and dev costs as well as tight deadlines. So far been using colour and C-41 process B&W neg, but just ordered some home processing equipment as lab costs are so expensive and quality unpredictable these days. Got 10 rolls of Rollei RPX 400 in the post today. At £2 per roll, cheapest film around! Also got some Diafine and Acufine dev. Not shot traditional black and white for almost 15 years, convinced my editor to run picture stories the old fashioned way. Am going to need to push to 1600 regularly as have to cover a few union meetings in dingy rooms, these days theres no smoking allowed to add to the ambience though. :-( If anyone has any experience using this combination please let me know? Will be mainly using an M6 and M7, 35mm Summilux (the old one) and 21mm pre asph Elmarit then scanning the negs on a Minolta 5400 or a Minolta Dimage Multi II depending which works better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 22, 2011 Share #107 Posted February 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not shot traditional black and white for almost 15 years, convinced my editor to run picture stories the old fashioned way. Am going to need to push to 1600 regularly as have to cover a few union meetings in dingy rooms, these days theres no smoking allowed to add to the ambience though. :-( Brave man (and understanding editor!). Coming back to b&w neg/dev after a 20+ year break, I have taken the easy option. First roll last week was HP5+ and today's was Tri-X. Both developed in Ilfosol 3, the HP5 came out well (perhaps just a touch of over-development) and the Tri-X is now drying in the shower cubicle, looks good at first glance. Getting the best out of my venerable Epson 3200 scanner and VueScan is another matter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 22, 2011 Share #108 Posted February 22, 2011 Thanks Noel, I just walked trough the house and outside and tested the viewfinder. I could simulate 2 situations where the patch turned white. Shooting from indoor/shade outside and like you explained a situation with a bright light source. I sometimes found it difficult to focus with this camera. I tested it with the viewfinder on my M8 and you can see that that one is much better. Maybe I need to get used to this. If it keeps on irritation me or preventing me from getting focussed shots than I need to send it of for an upgrade. Sorry The various chepo fixes will work in mean time, the upgrades are expensive, I think the condenser only would do, Leica probably want arm and leg. I got an upgrade (condenser I think) for free during a shutter rebuild, from an independent. The M8 finder is probably anti reflection coated as well. I normally use a M2, although the early M4-2 and before are all ok too.. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorJazz Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share #109 Posted February 23, 2011 I just asked quote from Leica and from Will van Manen to fix the white out in my camera. I also asked them what ik would cost to get the MP viewfinder. I'm really used to the viewfinder on the M8 and I have to see if the MP looks and feels the same way. But I'm already happy if the could fix the white out. I never thought it would be so bad. It made me miss some shots yesterday... It's sometimes hard to understand (or explain) to other photographer who don't use a leica that you pay top price for a beautiful camera, and that something like this happens. I have had a bad streak of faulty leica gear (m8, 35/f2, 90//f2) and I hope that I am done after this and start making photographs again. Or else I'll pick up my trusty Lomo LCA again, the camera that never fails me :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 23, 2011 Share #110 Posted February 23, 2011 I just asked quote from Leica and from Will van Manen to fix the white out in my camera. I also asked them what ik would cost to get the MP viewfinder. I'm really used to the viewfinder on the M8 and I have to see if the MP looks and feels the same way. But I'm already happy if the could fix the white out. I never thought it would be so bad. It made me miss some shots yesterday...It's sometimes hard to understand (or explain) to other photographer who don't use a leica that you pay top price for a beautiful camera, and that something like this happens. I have had a bad streak of faulty leica gear (m8, 35/f2, 90//f2) and I hope that I am done after this and start making photographs again. Or else I'll pick up my trusty Lomo LCA again, the camera that never fails me :-) Damn I'm sorry to hear this, man. I have an M6 and haven't really experienced the problem to anywhere near the extent you seem to have done (maybe there's some small variations in the different models?), but if you bought the camera from a dealer(?) I have to say that the M2 which I got this week is a TOTAL REVELATION in terms of build quality and clarity and sharpness in the finder: is there any way you might be able to swop the camera if you really found the flare a big problem? Just a possible thought. Good luck anyway - I love my M6, I just love the M2 finder even more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur Posted February 23, 2011 Share #111 Posted February 23, 2011 Under extreme situations even the MP flares out! I've learned to live with it and in a limited way anticipate since mostly flare occurs in the vertical position in which case I focus in the horizontal position, rotate the camera and shoot. Not always ideal I admit. Wil's fix on the M6 will help but won't take the problem away. Regards Charles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorJazz Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share #112 Posted March 1, 2011 Happy with my first results. Part of new project. Focus slightly off but I guess I have to get used to the new viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke Posted April 12, 2011 Share #113 Posted April 12, 2011 Hello Per! I was just scanning through this thread and saw your post. I had no idea that you had sold your M9. After the replies I received on the thread I started on the "other" forum about selling my MP and picking up an M8, I was pretty sure that would be making a big mistake. But now that I learn that you moved away from the M9...well, I feel much better about keeping my MP...or M3...or...uh...BOTH? LOL I tried, for the first time, back in november to develope my own film, just to try it. I love it. Since then I have sold my M9 in december, that I had owned for over a year, shot over 10.000 images, thought I would never part with it. I have not looked back. I absolutely love every part of the workflow with film. A new found inspiration, a totally new way of taking images that I never expected to like. So much fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted April 12, 2011 Share #114 Posted April 12, 2011 Hello Per! I was just scanning through this thread and saw your post. I had no idea that you had sold your M9. After the replies I received on the thread I started on the "other" forum about selling my MP and picking up an M8, I was pretty sure that would be making a big mistake. But now that I learn that you moved away from the M9...well, I feel much better about keeping my MP...or M3...or...uh...BOTH? LOL Mark, Don't loose the MP :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted April 13, 2011 Share #115 Posted April 13, 2011 Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted April 13, 2011 Share #116 Posted April 13, 2011 Pete Pete - that clip deserves its own thread really. PS: we could put it together with Puts and his recent post on 'craftsmanship'. I totally got what he was saying there, and I loved this short movie. I only wish my skill lived-up to the film-medium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted April 13, 2011 Share #117 Posted April 13, 2011 LOL. It was mischievously provocative posting that wasn't it. . Seriously though, lets not have another film vs digital thread. I'm sure it may apply to some but not others, and certainly not anyone using digital in the Leica fold Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myshkine Posted April 13, 2011 Share #118 Posted April 13, 2011 Under extreme situations even the MP flares out! I've learned to live with it and in a limited way anticipate since mostly flare occurs in the vertical position in which case I focus in the horizontal position, rotate the camera and shoot. Not always ideal I admit. Wil's fix on the M6 will help but won't take the problem away. Regards Charles My M6TTL almost always flare in the vertical position. Annoying ( I also revert to horizontal for focus and back to vertical) but I can live with it. I've been looking for solutions like Leicagoodies Shade, but maybe I should think about an upgrade. But will it eliminate the problem entirely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted April 14, 2011 Share #119 Posted April 14, 2011 LOL.It was mischievously provocative posting that wasn't it. . Photographers were lazy long before Photoshop. The whole idea behind Barnack's original Leica was convenience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted April 14, 2011 Share #120 Posted April 14, 2011 Photographers were lazy long before Photoshop. I'm doing my best to uphold that tradition. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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