WarriorJazz Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share #41 Posted February 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Good Choice! Thanks! Good to be back! Lovely m6 shot! 50mm lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Hi WarriorJazz, Take a look here Might dump digital,.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
WarriorJazz Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share #42 Posted February 8, 2011 Where are you located? We could suggest some stores for you... I can recommend a couple in the US, but I have a feeling that you aren't located here. As much as I like Tri-X, be sure to try out a couple rolls of the new T-Max 400. It's pretty amazing for a 400 speed film. Thanks for the offer but I live in The Netherlands. :-) I have to try that new tmax. I used to shoot allot of hp5 fillm and sometimes tri-x. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted February 8, 2011 Share #43 Posted February 8, 2011 Thanks! Good to be back! Lovely m6 shot! 50mm lens? Summicron 50 (last version with tab) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted February 8, 2011 Share #44 Posted February 8, 2011 Ahhh I got that exact one! I bought it for a few euro's at a garage sale. What about those cassettes? I have a bag full of empty canisters (metal ones) and I remember that some use to scratch the film. Are the plastic one better? I had the same experience (scratches) and stopped using bulk film because of it. I know that it was not the camera (Spotmatic) because it never scratched the packaged film. I could never pinpoint the exact cause, loader or cassettes. I also used the metal cassettes. But, if plastic ones will work in a M6TTL I might try it again. I think I still have that loader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 8, 2011 Share #45 Posted February 8, 2011 Hi I think IXMOO wil work in a M6TTL if you replace the baseplate latch it is only the M7 and MP chassis that interfere. But plastic, metal or recycled commercial cassettes are ok too. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted February 8, 2011 Share #46 Posted February 8, 2011 W.Jazz, Or for real "back to basics" you might consider an M2 all manual , no light meter though! but if you are a B&W fan then you might wish to bracket and guess the exposure. £469(GBP) at Peter Walnes. I'm tempted and I already have an M2 same age as me. used photographic equipment used leica used cameras used nikon - Leica M bodies I looked at M6 classic some years back but the shutter dial was wobbly and didn't seem to be of the same quality as the M3, M2 or the M6TTL and not a patch on the new MP. M6TTL shutter dial works in a different direction to (M3,M2),M6 classic, MP i.e opposite to the exposure meter arrows. M6TTL is similar to M7 and I guess M8/9 in the direction to turn to change exposure. I have both Mp and M7 so I get confused sometimes although M7 is mostly on AE. I heard M6 meter is battery hungry. My M6TTL used to be especially in the cold. (4 batteries in 3 weeks for 10 rolls in Nepal 2003, -10C at night) M6TTL in UK is around £999(GBP) with warrantee. See the expensive London stores Classic Camera and Red Dot, or I guess this forum's ads. For 35mm lens I'd advise 0.72x RF or possibly the 0.58 as that is approx the 24mm field for the full RF frame in case you wish to go very wide later. x0.72 seems just right to me as 0.85 means your eye has to hunt around the finder to catch the edges with 35mm lens so slowing you down. Regards, Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorJazz Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share #47 Posted February 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) W.Jazz,Or for real "back to basics" you might consider an M2 all manual , no light meter though! but if you are a B&W fan then you might wish to bracket and guess the exposure. £469(GBP) at Peter Walnes. I'm tempted and I already have an M2 same age as me. used photographic equipment used leica used cameras used nikon - Leica M bodies I looked at M6 classic some years back but the shutter dial was wobbly and didn't seem to be of the same quality as the M3, M2 or the M6TTL and not a patch on the new MP. M6TTL shutter dial works in a different direction to (M3,M2),M6 classic, MP i.e opposite to the exposure meter arrows. M6TTL is similar to M7 and I guess M8/9 in the direction to turn to change exposure. I have both Mp and M7 so I get confused sometimes although M7 is mostly on AE. I heard M6 meter is battery hungry. My M6TTL used to be especially in the cold. (4 batteries in 3 weeks for 10 rolls in Nepal 2003, -10C at night) M6TTL in UK is around £999(GBP) with warrantee. See the expensive London stores Classic Camera and Red Dot, or I guess this forum's ads. For 35mm lens I'd advise 0.72x RF or possibly the 0.58 as that is approx the 24mm field for the full RF frame in case you wish to go very wide later. x0.72 seems just right to me as 0.85 means your eye has to hunt around the finder to catch the edges with 35mm lens so slowing you down. Regards, Lincoln Ahhh,.. I considered this option but I would like to have a exposure meter in my camera. I used to have a M4p with a CV Meter on top. I used it occasionally but I was happy that I had the option to use it. Although it is a beautiful meter I still think it made my leica look chunky and ugly. I am pretty good at guessing exposures in summer but I really need a meter for the rest of the year :-) I have heard similar stories about the battery problem of the m6. Does everyone have the same experience? I'll probably get the 0.72x version. I just found a chrome m6, mint condition for € 1650,- (3months warranty). Bit expensive but I would love to have a mint version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted February 9, 2011 Share #48 Posted February 9, 2011 Ahhh,.. I considered this option but I would like to have a exposure meter in my camera. I used to have a M4p with a CV Meter on top. I used it occasionally but I was happy that I had the option to use it. Although it is a beautiful meter I still think it made my leica look chunky and ugly. I am pretty good at guessing exposures in summer but I really need a meter for the rest of the year :-) I have heard similar stories about the battery problem of the m6. Does everyone have the same experience? I'll probably get the 0.72x version. I just found a chrome m6, mint condition for € 1650,- (3months warranty). Bit expensive but I would love to have a mint version. You should be able to get a mint for far less. Keep an eye out at this place, have seen mint verisons for around 1000 EUR: http://apertureuk.com/leica.html#lms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted February 9, 2011 Share #49 Posted February 9, 2011 How long film is viable is anybodys guess. Film sales keeps going down. .........................------------------------------------------------------------------.................................. Hey tobey, kodak lower film sales doesn't worry me. I would love to know the Kodak percentages for film and sensors sales, I'll bet that film sales are much higher in volume. How many cameras manufactories are using the Kodak sensors. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 9, 2011 Share #50 Posted February 9, 2011 W.Jazz,Or for real "back to basics" you might consider an M2 all manual , no light meter though! but if you are a B&W fan then you might wish to bracket and guess the exposure. When I decided to return to analogue and to fulfill a long held desire for an 'M', I too thought in terms of the M6, possibly the M4. The more I read about the various models and the use I would put it to, I ended up opting for the M2 (and saved money to boot). My chrome M2 arrived last week (on 3-weeks approval and with 6-month guarantee) from Peter Loy . Excellent service. Have put two rolls of HP5+ through it to check shutter-speed and rangefinder accuracies and am waiting for the negs to be returned. In future I will do the dev myself. Apart from having fun again with b&w film, I am also looking forward to making comparisons between full-frame digital and film! PS - Lincoln - Swindon eh? I'm down the road in Wootton Bassett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted February 9, 2011 Share #51 Posted February 9, 2011 W. Jazz, €1650 for an M6 classic, ouch! In UK even London it would be £1000 = €1200 and you might even get it tax free. From Holland you could have a good weekend in London for €450 or even buy a 50mm f2.8 collapsable (latest) for €600. Alternatively get an M7 for £1300-£1400 and still have change from your €1650 for the Eurostar/Train home. Maybe Leica's are rare in Holland hence the mega prices? Sounds like a business taking cameras from UK to Holland for sale covering the travel and more and still giving the Dutch a great deal? Mmm interesting thought. Dinner in Leidesplein to trade cameras for cash. Oh the black chrome ages nice without the horrible yellow/green of the brassing on Black Paint(Lac-allure) models. Regards, Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 9, 2011 Share #52 Posted February 9, 2011 I tend to buy mint also - I find it's cheaper in the long-term because if you get exactly the camera you want the first time, you don't need to sell and buy again when the gnawing dissatisfaction gets the better of you later. Go ahead and buy the mint M6 at €1625 if it's the one you're gonna use and love for the next twenty+ years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted February 9, 2011 Share #53 Posted February 9, 2011 Red Dot London M7 £1200=€1440 http://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34_35&products_id=2855 Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
too old to care Posted February 10, 2011 Share #54 Posted February 10, 2011 I have heard similar stories about the battery problem of the m6. Does everyone have the same experience? Part of the problem with the batteries is the type you use. My M6's first battery lasted about a year. The next set only a few months and went out unexpectedly. I replaced then and again they were gone in a few months. I then looked at the batteries themselves. I was using drug store type batteries #LR44, A76 ect. These are apparently alkaline. I then started using 357/303 which I guess are silver. I now get about a year again. Rule of thumb though, keep a spare set near by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorJazz Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share #55 Posted February 10, 2011 W. Jazz,€1650 for an M6 classic, ouch! In UK even London it would be £1000 = €1200 and you might even get it tax free. From Holland you could have a good weekend in London for €450 or even buy a 50mm f2.8 collapsable (latest) for €600. Alternatively get an M7 for £1300-£1400 and still have change from your €1650 for the Eurostar/Train home. Maybe Leica's are rare in Holland hence the mega prices? Sounds like a business taking cameras from UK to Holland for sale covering the travel and more and still giving the Dutch a great deal? Mmm interesting thought. Dinner in Leidesplein to trade cameras for cash. I bookmarked your link. Next time I'll get a lens from here. Oh the black chrome ages nice without the horrible yellow/green of the brassing on Black Paint(Lac-allure) models. Regards, Lincoln Hey I'm with you. You bring over gear via the Eurostar and I'll sell it here and we both have dinner at the Leidseplein :-) I just found a somebody online who sells his near mint m6 for 900 euro's! The camera looks great in the pictures but I have to go and see for myself. Bit of a gamble because this is not a store and I'll have no warranty... What do you guys think? Any specific m6 things I need to look at if I check out the camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted February 10, 2011 Share #56 Posted February 10, 2011 Never had problems with my M7 - I use mostly a 35mm lens on my M7, wear glasses and don't have problems with the .85 MP viewfinder. Very bright, no flare, easy focusing, fast AE, silent shutter. I got mine in excellent condition at http://www.leicashop.com. Dumped digital some 5 years ago and never looked back... Might look at DSLRs in the future again though! See here for what to look at when buying a used M: http://www.cameraquest.com/leicamchecklist.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted February 10, 2011 Share #57 Posted February 10, 2011 Hey I'm with you. You bring over gear via the Eurostar and I'll sell it here and we both have dinner at the Leidseplein :-) I just found a somebody online who sells his near mint m6 for 900 euro's! The camera looks great in the pictures but I have to go and see for myself. Bit of a gamble because this is not a store and I'll have no warranty... What do you guys think? Any specific m6 things I need to look at if I check out the camera? Not that much that can go wrong really (at least in comparison with electronics and sensors) The shutter speeds/shutter curtain on the earlier M6´s can go out of sync, but later ones are better (see list in previous post for details on spotting shutter faults) + Check for dents (= knocks). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted February 10, 2011 Share #58 Posted February 10, 2011 I have an (internet) acquaintance who got a bum M6 - a lot of light leaks. Definitely see if you can shoot a roll or two through it and drop them off at a one hour place before you finalize the deal. Or develop at home if you do that. It will nominally let you check for light leaks and film movement problems - nasty scratches, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 10, 2011 Share #59 Posted February 10, 2011 Hi Ivor (Red Dot) has a M2 at 399 GBP, a 2nd hand Weston meter 19 to 50 GBP from varity of sources. An M2 is smooth even compared to M6, try before you buy. Noel http://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34_35&products_id=2681 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 10, 2011 Share #60 Posted February 10, 2011 Blimey Noel, are you on some kind of commission deal to sell as many M2 cameras as you can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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