SeOc Posted January 11, 2011 Share #21 Posted January 11, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Kudos! I doubt that there are many people under age 30, say, who can appreciate what you must be feeling. I can relate, I'm 47, and remember how much value I placed on every frame of film. But more importantly, it's the feeling of understanding and loving the process of photography.. the mental calculus, knowing the character of each lens with certian films ... at certain speeds, at certain apertures.. etc., etc. The immense satisfaction of developing your film and seeing what you expect, and sometimes the amazing discovery of something unexpected.. an unknown quality of a certain lens or film.. etc., etc. Now, I love digital too, for many tasks, but I have never had the same emotional attachment to digital as I did (and sometimes still do) to certain film cameras and exposures made on film. It's not just the analog vs. digital, it's the intangibles, and the results. My only Leica film camera is a CM, but even that lowly little 'toy' posesses some magic in the lense, especially with Velvia. I've never been able to replicate the images that this simple camera can make (with digital), no matter how much photoshopping.. I'll continue to shoot both, but I salute your choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steinzeug Posted January 14, 2011 Share #22 Posted January 14, 2011 Back home - Back to film I recently started using film again after buying an M6, and I must say that the experience of using a film camera again is very enjoyable, I just love the experience and mechanical feel of the camera, and with no electronics or power supplies to worry about. Of course I could never give up digital, but using the M6 and film is a very pleasant and liberating experience. As for the images, a digital camera (M8, M9, Canon 5Dmk2, Nikon D700 etc.) will give you incredible images, sharper with more micro details, more flexibility and immediacy, but film on the other hand will slow you down, make you think and the images are just so much more endearing. If you are considering trying out film, go for it! you won´t regret it. local high street shop scan with auto levels, no PP, as is. Fuji 200, M6, Summicron 50 (last version without hood) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1557966'>More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 14, 2011 Share #23 Posted January 14, 2011 i still use my canon new f1 on occasion and still find that there is a satisfying depth to film as your photo shows that digital lacks. that being said, the m9 takes photos that really do look like film (this is a qualitative judgement, pls no tech squabbles need get started). if only a high quality, low labor intensive and low cost way to transfer film to digital existed -- a better world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted January 14, 2011 Share #24 Posted January 14, 2011 i still use my canon new f1 on occasion and still find that there is a satisfying depth to film as your photo shows that digital lacks. that being said, the m9 takes photos that really do look like film (this is a qualitative judgement, pls no tech squabbles need get started). if only a high quality, low labor intensive and low cost way to transfer film to digital existed -- a better world. You never know, maybe sometime in the near future someone will find a high quality, low labor intensive and low cost way to transfer film to digital. But until such time I do believe there are still some good reasons for making the effort, not only for the end results in themselves but equally for a certain & different kind of approach and relationship to work. This film has already been posted a few times but it does connect with the using-film-experience. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted January 14, 2011 Share #25 Posted January 14, 2011 I wonder why Kodak doesn't make scanners optimised for their film? Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 15, 2011 Share #26 Posted January 15, 2011 the m9 takes photos that really do look like film (this is a qualitative judgement, pls no tech squabbles need get started). Why say this on a discussion forum if you don't want anyone to contradict it? I own an M8 and I've borrowed the M9 for a couple day's testing in the past. If either camera came even close to the intangible 'emotional' quality I get from film I'd probably sell my film cameras straight away, as the process is troublesome in many respects and more expensive than digital. The supposed 'film-like' quality of Leica's digital cameras is a canard that gets recycled on this forum at regular intervals. Interestingly, the Epson RD1 had a much more film-like quality to its output than the Kodak sensor in the M8 and M9, but even that cannot hold even the faintest candle to Portra shot in sunlight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted January 15, 2011 Share #27 Posted January 15, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why say this on a discussion forum if you don't want anyone to contradict it? I own an M8 and I've borrowed the M9 for a couple day's testing in the past. If either camera came even close to the intangible 'emotional' quality I get from film I'd probably sell my film cameras straight away, as the process is troublesome in many respects and more expensive than digital. The supposed 'film-like' quality of Leica's digital cameras is a canard that gets recycled on this forum at regular intervals. Interestingly, the Epson RD1 had a much more film-like quality to its output than the Kodak sensor in the M8 and M9, but even that cannot hold even the faintest candle to Portra shot in sunlight. Good points and I totally agree with you. However, l hope this thread will stay on the theme of the experiences of those who have returned to or re-discovered film. I know there are a lot of people intriqued to know more about film and if it is worth the extra work flow efforts, and would like to hear form us who have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 15, 2011 Share #28 Posted January 15, 2011 Good points and I totally agree with you. However, l hope this thread will stay on the theme of the experiences of those who have returned to or re-discovered film. I know there are a lot of people intriqued to know more about film and if it is worth the extra work flow efforts, and would like to hear form us who have. True. And needless to say, I'll repeat that for me it's worth every part of the extra effort, time and expense! I'll also add this - many times when I look at my digital images I can be extremely satisfied with them, and feel that they have charm* and technical proficiency... until I view them side-by-side with a film image. For some reason that I can't really analyze objectively, the film images - even those taken with the same lens as the digital capture - blow the digital images out of the water. I really can't say why this is. Film is truly worth it. *(to my own eyes that is - they're of no interest whatsoever to anyone else) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvsm Posted January 15, 2011 Share #29 Posted January 15, 2011 I've been using digital for around 10 years, most recently with a canon 5d. I can only echo the comments above, some of my shots using the 5d i'm very satisfied with - but theres something very special about film captures thats difficult to put into words. For some time I've been playing with a Canon A-1 and Minolta Autocord to the point I consider leaving my M8 in the bag and heading out to shoot film. The M8's IQ is without question better than those two mentioned, but I love the process of shooting film and the results. So much so I've bought an M7. We'll see if the M8 survives! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinzeug Posted January 15, 2011 Share #30 Posted January 15, 2011 I've been using digital for around 10 years, most recently with a canon 5d. I can only echo the comments above, some of my shots using the 5d i'm very satisfied with - but theres something very special about film captures thats difficult to put into words. For some time I've been playing with a Canon A-1 and Minolta Autocord to the point I consider leaving my M8 in the bag and heading out to shoot film. The M8's IQ is without question better than those two mentioned, but I love the process of shooting film and the results. So much so I've bought an M7. We'll see if the M8 survives! Thanks for your comments. There seems to be a whole new crowd of photographers finding their way back to/into film. Of course good quality digital cameras have their own kind of feel and qualities and advantages, but I do find using film will slow you down and make you approach taking images in a different way, which to me is exciting and liberating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvsm Posted January 16, 2011 Share #31 Posted January 16, 2011 I've actually come to enjoy not being able to check the images after releasing the shutter, as per digital. Finding out how your captures turned out once processed is always great fun. Though I entirely appreciate the help in learning your tool that digital provides. I'll continue to use both in some way or another, but for pleasure only, film works for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
click Posted January 19, 2011 Share #32 Posted January 19, 2011 A customer of mine insulted me for still living in the dark ages so I rented a digital for six days, experimented with the idea and learned that I literally love film. I returned the body happily and I will never look back. For starters I believe that what matters is the prints and I don't care what anyone says; the digital prints look bad when compared to film prints made in the darkroom. I applaud your decision to go back to your roots! Every time a Photographer goes digital he betrays his craft by reducing demand for the tools of his art. Every time a Photographer chooses to stick with film he reinforces the demand for this beautiful art form. Let the consumer buy the digital camera, software, printers and all that other crap over and over again and make ugly, meaningless images. I will be out in the world carefully exposing my film when the moment, expression and the light reveals itself or watching a beautiful image come to life in a tray. So thank you for supporting our art form, without every one of you I would not have film. Sincerely, Click[/font] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milosz Posted January 19, 2011 Share #33 Posted January 19, 2011 I'm returning to film, a bit. Started with picking up a Fuji Instax 210 for New Years Eve, then pulled out old film cameras to see what could be parted with, discovered rebadged Tri-X for $2.19/36 (Arista Premium 400)... I figure my next photo purchases are an Epson V750 and possibly a Plustek scanner. I'm aiming to shoot at least 150 rolls this year, between whatever rangefinder survives the cull and perhaps a cheap Nikon F100. Not selling my D700 - it occurred to me today that Robert Frank exposed ~25,000 negatives over the course of a year in producing The Americans. Digital lets me do that (given that the D700 is a long-sunk cost and essentially free now), where I could not afford to buy, develop and contact print/scan that much film on my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted January 19, 2011 Share #34 Posted January 19, 2011 I went to a cousin wedding i december and with a roll of portra 160 loaded in my m6. I shot without flash in the reception and the pictures came out sharp . The photographer with a D2xs and 2 flashes was amazed how i could do that. I sed well cus i didnt have any mirror box i'm surprised how MANY 'professional' photographers use flashlights inside. they make terrible photos no matter the camera. just white washed out faced with shadows in the back, i hate them so much, but SO MANY pros still use them. so many hired wedding photographers are rubbish though. The photographer with a D2xs and 2 flashes was amazed how i could do that. I sed well cus i didnt have any mirror box they'll never understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 19, 2011 Share #35 Posted January 19, 2011 A customer of mine insulted me for still living in the dark ages so I rented a digital for six days, experimented with the idea and learned that I literally love film. I returned the body happily and I will never look back. For starters I believe that what matters is the prints and I don't care what anyone says; the digital prints look bad when compared to film prints made in the darkroom. I applaud your decision to go back to your roots!Every time a Photographer goes digital he betrays his craft by reducing demand for the tools of his art. Every time a Photographer chooses to stick with film he reinforces the demand for this beautiful art form. Let the consumer buy the digital camera, software, printers and all that other crap over and over again and make ugly, meaningless images. I will be out in the world carefully exposing my film when the moment, expression and the light reveals itself or watching a beautiful image come to life in a tray. So thank you for supporting our art form, without every one of you I would not have film. Sincerely, Click[/font] The father of my current dealer who sold me a R4S, now retired (Leica dealer today is now his son who sold me M9,M8,M7..and R8), told me the other day that: " the digital as the M8 and the M9 gives images that lack the material and life" That's right. The pictures I have with my M9 and M8 are good pictures but it lacks something like a soul It was fun taking pictures with a good old camera as R4S , R8 , Leicaflex SL or M7 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/142340-back-film-cosmos-flowers.html http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-collectors-historica/97395-i-am-sad.html as i said above on an other thread, film still is the reference for me , as Hi Fi of sound with vacuum amplifier,Sacd or vinyl record, and Hi Fi of image with film camera Please enjoy the real Hi Fi ! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! On your left,AudioResearch the tube 6550 amplifier and on your right,the ultimate M7 Leica film Have you listened to the opera and the voice on tubes? listen the violin strings and hear the hammers hitting the strings of the piano? It's sublime Regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! On your left,AudioResearch the tube 6550 amplifier and on your right,the ultimate M7 Leica film Have you listened to the opera and the voice on tubes? listen the violin strings and hear the hammers hitting the strings of the piano? It's sublime Regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1563564'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 19, 2011 Share #36 Posted January 19, 2011 Back home - Back to film I recently started using film again after buying an M6, and I must say that the experience of using a film camera again is very enjoyable, I just love the experience and mechanical feel of the camera, and with no electronics or power supplies to worry about. Of course I could never give up digital, but using the M6 and film is a very pleasant and liberating experience. As for the images, a digital camera (M8, M9, Canon 5Dmk2, Nikon D700 etc.) will give you incredible images, sharper with more micro details, more flexibility and immediacy, but film on the other hand will slow you down, make you think and the images are just so much more endearing. If you are considering trying out film, go for it! you won´t regret it. local high street shop scan with auto levels, no PP, as is. Fuji 200, M6, Summicron 50 (last version without hood) Very nice and lovely portrait Stein Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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