jc_braconi Posted January 6, 2011 Share #21 Posted January 6, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Guys,I've spotted this lens below and was wondering if anyone has dealings with the dealer and your impressions on the lens? I've e-mailed the seller regarding the 'slightly hazy' description just awaiting a reply. Also, does anyone know if there are additional taxes to pay by UK buyers for second hand stuff bought from Austria? Thanks Tony https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/summicron-rigid-250mm-chrome-p-297.html Yes I visited the shop last summer. I saw last day the announce but as, you have also read the description, I do not mention it to you. the items are always a little bit over rated by them, but it is the dealer margin. No tax at all, just the shipping. Do not buy things you will regret next WAIT ans seek for a good one and may be it is better to pay a little more but have a nice lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Twotone Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted January 6, 2011 Yes I visited the shop last summer.I saw last day the announce but as, you have also read the description, I do not mention it to you. the items are always a little bit over rated by them, but it is the dealer margin. No tax at all, just the shipping. Do not buy things you will regret next WAIT ans seek for a good one and may be it is better to pay a little more but have a nice lens. Thanks again JC, I think I'll take your advice and wait for a decent clean lens the Greek one) , a similar one to the one I linked to sold on e-bay dot com (America) for just under £300 incl shipping but the seller said that the lens required cleaning and that it was priced accordingly so I presume a clean will cost about £150 or so. I've just received a reply from Austrian site regarding the haze thing and the shipping. Regards, Tony "Shipping and insurance to GB € 24,- 'slightly hazy' means the lenses are not so clean like a new one. after some time every lens glass or coating gets a film of dust" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steed Posted January 7, 2011 Share #23 Posted January 7, 2011 You were concerned about soft glass. That concern applies to old f2 Summars, not to the Summicron. Dollar for dollar (pound for pound), the collapsible Summicron is fantastic. I regularly hear folks admire the quality of the imatges it produces. I have a Summitar as well, and it is pretty good. If you go that route, get a Voigtlander adapter ring. They work just fine and cost much less than the Leica counterparts. Regards John West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsambrook Posted January 8, 2011 Share #24 Posted January 8, 2011 I think that if you're relatively new to buying Leica equipment the safest way to acquire a good lens is to buy from a reputable UK dealer. That's not to say overseas dealers are inferior to British ones (far from it) but because pre-purchase communication is likely to be easier and after-sales help almost certainly more readily available should something go awry with the deal. Nor is that advice meant to seem that I doubt the honesty and trustworthyness of advertisers in LUF or other places . . . but buying from a reputable UK source gives you the protection of the retailer's experience and reputation with legal redress should something go catastrophically wrong with the transaction. Some, perhaps many, dealers will accept the return of a secondhand item within an agreed period if it's not what you wanted - either for a refund or full credit against a subsequent purchase. But, you will pay something extra for the 'added value' of a guarantee compared to a private purchase. VAT is usually charged on the dealer's margin of gross profit, so you don't have to worry about about the imposition of tax to the selling price (which some overseas dealers do). Several people have suggested the 50mm Summicron is an excellent choice, and indeed it is. If you get the close-focus version it gives you some extra versatility plus - in my experience - better handling than the regular rigid version or the collapsible one. It lacks the infinity catch which so often interferes with focusing at longer distances and is quicker to mount and dismount from the body as it has a decent milled grip at its rear. (On the other hand, if you plan ever to get an M9 I think it poses some problems on that body.) Finally I'd urge you to buy a lens that's "good to go" and avoid any hassle in cleaning or adjusting. Good luck and happy photography with whatever you end up with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share #25 Posted January 8, 2011 Hi guys, I finally managed to buy a lens, I've bought this one below. Just have to pay for it now:D A member of this forum pmed me regarding the dealer and I've been keeping an eye on the website since. Price including shipping is £525. Product details Collectcamera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #26 Posted January 15, 2011 Hi Guys, the lens turned up today and I have to say that I'm absolutely astounded at the condition that the lens it is in. For a 46 yr old piece of equipment such as an optical lens to have survived so long and in that condition is frankly amazing. It really is no wonder that Leica cameras and lenses are considered to be the best there is judging by the engineering and quality of both the camera and lens that I've recently bought. I'll post up some pictures of both here later on but in the meantime can someone tell me if an M2 ever ready case (below) can be used for an M3 camera, a 50mm Summicron lens and possibly with an M-4 lightmeter attached to the camera, please? Also I definitely need to buy a filter to protect the lens' front element and was thinking of buying either a daylight filter or a UV filter, I intend to shoot mainly B&W film without flash so perhaps some kind soul can recommend something:D I've spotted a second hand B+W 39mm KR1.5 Skylight filter for the ridiculously low price of £10, will this do? M2 Leather Case by Leica - Ffordes Photographic Thanks again. Tony PS, the guy I bought the lens from at collectcameras is exceptionally helpful and friendly and all of his stuff looks to be in absolutely fantastic condition, certainly the lens I bought looks as though it has never even been on a camera before and has probably come from a camera collector rather than a photographer. Anyway the guy's name is Theo and anyone thinking of buying anything from him should just give him a call beforehand, his communication via e-mail or by phone are excellent as is his English. I'd certainly buy from him again. Also, a big thanks is due to the forum member who recommending the site to me, I doubt I would have come across it otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 15, 2011 Share #27 Posted January 15, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) The filter will be fine, provided it's in good condition. The case will probably fit too (can't think why not) but a call to ffordes will confirm. I bought my first M (an 1960 M2, with a 1973 50 Summicron) with a tatty brown case. Half an hour with some Cherry Blossom and it looked like new. You are really going to have some fun with this kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #28 Posted January 15, 2011 The filter will be fine, provided it's in good condition. The case will probably fit too (can't think why not) but a call to ffordes will confirm. I bought my first M (an 1960 M2, with a 1973 50 Summicron) with a tatty brown case. Half an hour with some Cherry Blossom and it looked like new. You are really going to have some fun with this kit Thanks Andy, Yeah I'll give Ffordes a call on Monday, they have three of the M2 cases for sale all around the £30 mark. The guy I bought the lens has one that he sent me pictures off and it looks like it's just come out of the factory except for a small mark on the 'nose' and it as good as it gets without actually buying one brand new from a dealer in 1954 however he's looking for 180 euros for it I'll post the pics up if I can work out how to:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #29 Posted January 15, 2011 Ever ready case pics Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140763-new-leica-m3-owner-seeking-lens-advice/?do=findComment&comment=1559270'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 15, 2011 Share #30 Posted January 15, 2011 There are a couple of videos in sticky threads at the top of the Customer sub-forum which should help you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 15, 2011 Share #31 Posted January 15, 2011 M2 Leather Case by Leica - Ffordes Photographic . This one linked must works, just check the size from the screw base mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #32 Posted January 15, 2011 There are a couple of videos in sticky threads at the top of the Customer sub-forum which should help you. In here Andy? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-wiki-discussion/ Thanks Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #33 Posted January 15, 2011 This one linked must works, just check the size from the screw base mount. Thanks JC, what size am I looking for and can you get adaptors to fit? Thanks Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 15, 2011 Share #34 Posted January 15, 2011 I think the case to take a camera and meter has a high top. But I would suggest a handheld meter rather than the MR type. A digital meter will work in low light too. The latest leica case for the MP should work as well unless you're going for a period look. Of course you really should get yourself a luigi case if you want to be taken seriously! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 15, 2011 Share #35 Posted January 15, 2011 No. Sorry, at the top of the "About the forum" section http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/about-leica-forum/144288-how-resize-photos-posting-forum.html http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/about-leica-forum/144293-how-upload-photos-forum.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted January 15, 2011 Share #36 Posted January 15, 2011 Ever ready case pics Those "never-ready" cases were the original ones at the time of the M3 and they are so well built to protect your camera in cases of earthquakes and other catastrophes. Though for practical use they are just a pain.... You cannot separate the front part as in the newer ones (which are much worse in other respects). So when you use the camerea - especially in upright position- the front part is always in your ways, as if it wanted to signal to you that the proper position of a camera is deep down in the case but never ever with a naked lens looking cheekily out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 15, 2011 Share #37 Posted January 15, 2011 Thanks JC, what size am I looking for and can you get adaptors to fit? Thanks Tony The one in the bottom plate/cover that will fits with the one in the ERC. and Yes you can find adapters in case of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 15, 2011 Share #38 Posted January 15, 2011 Those "never-ready" cases were the original ones at the time of the M3 and they are so well built to protect your camera in cases of earthquakes and other catastrophes. Though for practical use they are just a pain.... You cannot separate the front part as in the newer ones (which are much worse in other respects). So when you use the camerea - especially in upright position- the front part is always in your ways, as if it wanted to signal to you that the proper position of a camera is deep down in the case but never ever with a naked lens looking cheekily out of it. In fact I use the black one for the M4 that I can use half part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted January 15, 2011 Share #39 Posted January 15, 2011 I think the case to take a camera and meter has a high top. But I would suggest a handheld meter rather than the MR type. A digital meter will work in low light too. ! I use the VC II from Voïgt. on top of my M3 : flat light and very accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotone Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share #40 Posted January 15, 2011 I think the case to take a camera and meter has a high top. But I would suggest a handheld meter rather than the MR type. A digital meter will work in low light too. The latest leica case for the MP should work as well unless you're going for a period look. Of course you really should get yourself a luigi case if you want to be taken seriously! Thank James, I am going for the period look but more importantly I need to store the camera and lens in a protective environment and those ERCs look perfect for that. I do have an old very good camera bag which I use for my old Nikon and accessories which would do but I only want to go out with the camera and lens so that brings me back to the ERC. I've looked at the luigi cases and half cases and to be completely honest I think they look terrible, they're probably ok in the flesh, so to speak, but in photographs I just think they look 'naff' I'm still undecided about a meter but will more than likely end up buying one, I like the sound of the 'F16 rule' to be honest and think I'll try a few old out of date films with this method to see how I get on initially. Regards, Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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