Capture 1 the new and great.

[Rick]

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Could someone post a comparison sample of C1 and LR colors?

 

And what do you do about sharpening in C1?

 

Thorsten, I respect you so much. Please don't be about tweaky trivial stuff that doesn't mean anything, can't be proven on the internet, and needs to be explored by each individual. This would become so droll if, it turns into an image posting thread of grand insignificance. I love your stuff.

[Dougg]

Not sure but it is only a ma tter of weeks since I paid for an upgrade to version 5

 

Me too... But if you bought/upgraded version 5 within the past 30 days, the upgrade to version 6 is free.

[Jamie Roberts]

What, exactly, ARE you talking about?

 

Seriously? Really?

 

Skin tones mostly and usually, which are admittedly much improved in LR v3. Still not as good as C1. Sorry. I'm not going to prove this to people, but it's the truth with DNGs; M8 and M9 in particular.

 

Try it for yourself. Of course, YMMV.

[Jamie Roberts]

Sucks? Kind of limits how seriously you can be taken, Jamie. For those of you who don't have LR; the color doesn't "suck", it is just fine.

 

Ok whatever, Rick--tell us how you really feel

 

I personally don't like skin tones from LR.They were abysmal before LR v3, and while they're ok now, C1 still aces them without torquing magenta and reds.

 

Anyway, I do take this stuff very seriously, and I don't insult anyone in the process.

 

Whether you take me seriously or not is a matter for you to gauge; I personally don't care

[Jamie Roberts]

Could someone post a comparison sample of C1 and LR colors?

 

And what do you do about sharpening in C1?

 

There are a ton of LR samples out there that show how it colours things, and I know, Thorsten, that you have a DMR to content with too

 

I'll try to get to some from the new C1 in the next couple of days.

 

As for sharpening, C1 supports a lot of different sharpening options (and they always have). I don't personally touch the defaults much, because I tend to resize and re-profile, then sharpen, in PS for printing anyway.

[sblitz]

anyone using c1 on a macbook pro? i do and find it very unstable -- that is it crashes a lot. no such problem with ps or lr. also find it the dng files take a much longer time to come through in c1 vs lr3.

[Chroma project]

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I do not understand how people choose Leica and then adobe's stupid LR.

from the very beginning LR is a cheap and ugly non creative copy of Apple's Aperture and not as good in any point.

and you who are talking about good colours/image quality that LR offers!

 

I feel sorry for you.

[Marty]

I do not understand how people choose Leica and then adobe's stupid LR.

Surely that is a bit harsh, no?

 

There are many many reasons for using LR, being very good software is one of them. But in general - and this is also my own experience - all the different products available right now have their own strengths and weaknesses. And all of them have improved a lot over the last 2 years or so. If there is one thing that will really make a difference then it is sticking with whatever you use and learning it inside out. This will get the best out of your images regardless of brand.

 

The fact that LR comes free with certain cameras these days makes the choice a little easier.

[erl]

I agree with Marty about the LR comments made by chroma project. A valid POV but harshly expressed.

 

I have stuck with C1 6 Pro, mainly because I prefer the way it works. Also, I have never been able to acquire my 'free' version of lightroom with my M9. I suspect it is a Leica problem rather than an Adobe one, but gave up fussing simply because 'being free' does not mean it is any better than what I am comfortable with!

[sblutter]

Doesn't anyone use the raw developer in CS/PS 5?

 

Am I missing something?

 

I have LR 3.2 but don't like the workflow when I'm doing studio - shooting one set-up at a time

[Steve Ash]

I wish I had not upgraded to 6.0 as Capture One Pro is awfully slow now.

Steve

[erl]

Steve, my recollection is that Ver's 4 & 5 were both slow at the beginning. An update seemed to fix it. Same with the firmware on the M9. Verrry slow until the upgrade.

 

Come Monday, my main PC goes in for (more) brain surgery to be upgraded to 64bit so I can add more RAM. I am hoping that will improve the situation with Ver. 6

[ho_co]

Doesn't anyone use the raw developer in CS/PS 5? ...

 

Lightroom uses the same RAW processor found in Photoshop CS5.

[Chroma project]

Surely that is a bit harsh, no?

 

There are many many reasons for using LR, being very good software is one of them. But in general - and this is also my own experience - all the different products available right now have their own strengths and weaknesses. And all of them have improved a lot over the last 2 years or so. If there is one thing that will really make a difference then it is sticking with whatever you use and learning it inside out. This will get the best out of your images regardless of brand.

 

The fact that LR comes free with certain cameras these days makes the choice a little easier.

 

I agree with Marty about the LR comments made by chroma project. A valid POV but harshly expressed.

 

I have stuck with C1 6 Pro, mainly because I prefer the way it works. Also, I have never been able to acquire my 'free' version of lightroom with my M9. I suspect it is a Leica problem rather than an Adobe one, but gave up fussing simply because 'being free' does not mean it is any better than what I am comfortable with!

 

 

Sure, it might be perceived a little *harsh* for some. but I find no reason to resist and write it in other ways. well, we speak of machines and computer programs, not the people who choose one or the other.

[erl]

Chroma Project, you say you speak of computer programs and machines, but I read your original statement as more of a personal comment on the users of such equipment. That is my only criticism of your post. Criticize and analayze the gear as much as you wish. All I am saying is be respectful of other posters opinions, without having to agree with them.

[Luke_Miller]

I'm playing with the trial version and noise reduction now appears to rival that of Lightroom 3.

 

After further playing with the trial I've concluded that its noise reduction does not appear to be significantly improved over C1 ver 5. Not an issue with my D3 files, but a limitation with those from my M8.2. While I still think C1 ver 6 adds several important features I'm not ready to replace Lightroom with it, even though I continue to prefer C1's colors.

[Steve Ash]

Steve, my recollection is that Ver's 4 & 5 were both slow at the beginning. An update seemed to fix it. Same with the firmware on the M9. Verrry slow until the upgrade.

 

Come Monday, my main PC goes in for (more) brain surgery to be upgraded to 64bit so I can add more RAM. I am hoping that will improve the situation with Ver. 6

 

 

What I found strange is that capture one pro version 6 runs fine on my macbook but is slow on my iMac.

 

Regards

Steve

[archi4]

Erl,

There is a help and as I remember a contact possibility in the customer site at Leica.

Whatever, e-mailing Leica will solve the problem as they are very very helpful.

I stupidly downloaded a windows version in german, when what I needed was the mac version in english.

I sent an e-mail and they immediately arranged for a new download.

maurice

[archi4]

Steve,

Capture One 6 runs fine and fast on my newer and older iMac's.

So something is causing it to drag its feet.

Try deleting the library and the two com.phase one preferences and the batchqueue files

user/application support/batchqueu

user/library/preferences/com.phaseone.whatever

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[erl]

Erl,

There is a help and as I remember a contact possibility in the customer site at Leica.

Whatever, e-mailing Leica will solve the problem as they are very very helpful.

I stupidly downloaded a windows version in german, when what I needed was the mac version in english.

I sent an e-mail and they immediately arranged for a new download.

maurice

 

Thanks Maurice. I may try that, but at present my main computer is having major brain surgery and I am faced with re-installing ALL my software when it comes back. That project will demand my total attention for awhile.