I got M9 + 50Cron Built-in Hood, should I consider buying VC Nokton 50 1.1?

[peeradonn]

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Dear All,

 

Now I'm Using my M9 with Cron 50 Built-in hood version. I'm start to feel likes I need a faster lens for using in the low light situation.

 

The Noctilux and Summilux ASPH is way out of reach So I consider Summilux Pre-ASPH ( Old Classic Model with the price range of 1000$ +/-) and VC Nokton 50 1.1

 

Since I prefer to buy the brand-new, not the used one so My choice now toward the Nokton.

 

Just want to know your idea, what is my best choice to consider now with the budget around 1000-1500$ to spend.

 

If I buy the Nokton 1.1, should I sell the Cron 50? since it'll be redundant in Focal range.

 

Please help,

 

Kim

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[likalar]

That 50mm Summicron is a super-capable lens worthy of thousands of great photographs. Take your time, enjoy the delights of shooting with your new M (with that great lens), and try not to worry about not having the special lenses that are available. You've got a great set in your hands; enjoy it and grow together. Plenty of time ahead! On the other hand, if you find yourself unable to shoot at f:2.0, because of darkness, go for it; get the faster lens. But if you can, keep that Summicron. It's a beaut, and will likely become the go-to lens more often than not. Best wishes!

 

Larry

[cheewai_m6]

i can only talk about my own experience. i've shoot an m6 and i have a 50mm cron. i've shot in some pretty dark places with 400 film with the shutter at 1/8thsec. i manage to get photos with very little or no camera shake. with an m9, you can put the iso to well over 400, to say 1600 for example, so that's 1/30th shutter, you should be laughing! a cron will do the job.

 

i'm not saying having another stop or 2 isn't good, but if money is an issue, and you already have a cron, then you really can get by with the cron. but, a lot people are never really happy, no matter how good the lens is, until they get a lux or nocti.

[theno23]

I have a 50 Summicron, and the 50 1.1 Nokton. I use them both, but the Nokton a bit more, I shoot in low light quite a bit. There's 1 2/3 stops in it, and that's a lot of extra light.

 

The Summicron is better in a lot of ways optically, and the Nokton is huge. That said, the Nokton is still a very good lens, just not as good as the Summicron.

 

If you want a good review of the Nokton, Sean Reid has just covered it. Informally I'd say it's decent at 1.1, and very good at 1.4. I shoot with it wide open without hesitation. There's very little DoF though, so it is not a good substitute for higher ISO ratings.

 

- Steve

[250swb]

Kim, the only faster lens I would replace the 50mm Summicron with is the 50mm Summilux. I have a f1.1 Nockton and it doesn't replace the quality of the Summicron by any means. But in itself its a great lens, although there are no free lunches with buying one. For one you will find your failure rate higher because focusing at f1 is much more difficult with a rangefinder camera, and especially as you are aiming to do it in low light. Secondly it is a big thing, so not for carrying around all the time on your camera (but I guess its all still lighter than a DSLR etc). And finally if you want to use it in daylight wide open you will need a strong ND filter, so more fuss is involved.

 

Thats aside the Nockton quality is very nice, but don't sell your Summicron!

 

Steve

[peeradonn]

It looks like I have to replace my Cron with the 50 LUX, Not the Nokton.

 

How is the 50 LUX Pre-ASPH Version? Is it a good lens for replace my 50 Cron?

 

Or I need to go for 50 LUX ASPH eventually?

[luigi bertolotti]

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The pre-asph Lux can be a substitute for the Summicron... provided you find a very good item : the rendering at f 2 is quite similar (better, in someones' opinion) and you have a stop more; dimensions and weight are reasonable. I have both, but the Summicron (old version with removable head) is used only as a short distance lens with its SOMKY...

On the contrary, should you take the Nokton1,1, I'd say to keep the Summicron, both for technical reasons and also for it's simply a pity not to have a Leica original 50.

The Lux asph (which I haven't) is generally considered a masterpiece... with a single i$$ue, of course... : one can't go wrong buying it.

[mustafasoleiman]

Hello

 

I just bought a Nokton 1.1 and cannot be happier!

All my other lenses are Leica except for the 12mm, another CV.

 

Definitely keep the Cron because you will not want to carry the Nokton all the time.

But for when you are shooting in low light it's great.

 

I am sure the Lux is better, but in low light I am not sure how much you will notice the difference between the two, and that extra light allowed by the 1.1 aperture, not to mention the very creative lack of depth of field, may make up for the difference.

[dickgrafixstop]

Lenses are obviously quite personal. You don't mention which if any other lenses you

have, but rather than the Noctor I would consider a 35mm summilux. It will give you

a second - and sometimes preferred focal length - and can be in the same price range if

you buy used. There is a 1.4 CV I believe, which may be a budgetary choice.

[Bo_Lorentzen]

The nokton is lovely and a lens with a "classical" kind of rendering. however it is not a proper replacement for the 50cron.

 

I have a nokton and am not meaning to pick on that lens, my opinions about the lens can be found here.. BoPhoto.com: Voigtlander 50mm 1.1 - ITS HERE...!

 

The 50 cron is a legendary piece of glass, stick to it, you may want to add a nokton in the future for the low light capabilities, but I wold not replace the cron.

 

Personally I would agree with the suggestion of adding a 35mm to your range first.

 

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