rosuna Posted October 25, 2010 Share #1 Posted October 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting reasoning: 4 Reasons Why You Should Get the Leica D-LUX 5 vs Panasonic LX-5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Hi rosuna, Take a look here 4 Reasons Why You Should Get the Leica D-LUX 5 vs Panasonic LX-5. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Walt Calahan Posted October 25, 2010 Share #2 Posted October 25, 2010 Of course since I own Lightroom why should I buy it again with a D-Lux 5? I paid no shipping and no tax by ordering on-line through an out-of-state camera store that threw in free ground shipping. I did not buy a two year warranty. These things go obsolete so soon, in two years I'll probably switch to a new camera. The built-in grip in the LX5 hardly makes the camera much bigger. It's a raised dimple, and feeling great in my large hands. Why pay Leica for an added on grip. Menu items might or might not be easier to use on the Leica. All in the eye of the beholder. Now that I've got the setting programmed the way I want, I rarely change anything, except the ISO. My cost = $465.00 (I've seen the LX5 a few dollars cheaper here and there.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #3 Posted October 25, 2010 I like the four reasons, I like the Leica D-lux 5 but I do want the hand grip so anyone see them for sale in the states yet? Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 25, 2010 Share #4 Posted October 25, 2010 Panasonic must also offer some editing software that should be adjusted out of the equation. The resale value is interesting - I wonder how many people would buy a three year old p&s camera. of any make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted October 25, 2010 Share #5 Posted October 25, 2010 Ordered the canceled DL5. Bought LX5. built in hand grip at no extra charge. With lens protruding from body the grip doesn't count as to size. Add the Leica grip, more $, it will be bigger then the LX. Already own LR1 & 2, don't use it. Upgraded PS to CS5. I want Leica to survive but not on re-branded items with no real enhancements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 25, 2010 Share #6 Posted October 25, 2010 Panasonic must also offer some editing software that should be adjusted out of the equation. The resale value is interesting - I wonder how many people would buy a three year old p&s camera. of any make. I looked up Digilux 1's on ebay the other day, just out of curiosity - they sell for about £100-150 which is more than I expected, but then new they were about £800 I seem to remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted October 25, 2010 Share #7 Posted October 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) for me the only reason to buy the leica over the Panasonic would be LR3 as I already have it LX5 makes a lot more sense and the in built grip is really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 25, 2010 Share #8 Posted October 25, 2010 Panasonic must also offer some editing software that should be adjusted out of the equation. The resale value is interesting - I wonder how many people would buy a three year old p&s camera. of any make. HI Andy Have a look at ebay - it really is true - even d-lux3 are going for a decent price. I'm not sure what panasonic offer in the way of software, but it sure ain't lightroom 3 Of course, if you aren't going to sell it, and you already have lightroom? Certainly I've bought Leica P&S over Panasonic over the years - and the excuse has always been the better resale value (much better). Mind you, I freely admit to not having done a full cost and benefit analysis! . . . . . and then there's those nice leather cases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPJMP Posted October 25, 2010 Share #9 Posted October 25, 2010 It's as much of an emotional decision as it is a financial one. I mean, would you rather have a camera bearing the logo of one of the oldest and most respected makers of photographic equipment and precision optics, or the logo of the same company that makes electric shavers, microwave ovens and DVD players? If someone were to lay a D-LUX 5 and LX5 out on a table and tell us we could take either one home free of charge, I would bet that most would go for the Red Dot. Gotta say, though, that including the hottest new $250-$300 professional image editing software goes a long way towards justifying the price increase (it was for me, at least). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #10 Posted October 25, 2010 Panasonic must also offer some editing software that should be adjusted out of the equation. The resale value is interesting - I wonder how many people would buy a three year old p&s camera. of any make. Look on ebay there are D-lux 2's that are getting 275.00 and up. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 25, 2010 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2010 A ridiculous price, IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted October 25, 2010 Share #12 Posted October 25, 2010 A ridiculous price, IMHO. This may be true but it may also be the only way some people with limited funds can get there hands on a red dot camera. Cheers Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semma Posted December 3, 2010 Share #13 Posted December 3, 2010 There are more reasons to buy the Leica. First of all, it is smaller without the grip then the Pana. It simply looks better then the Pana. Second, not everyone who buys a P&S (euh, these 2 beautifull serious compacts deserve better then being called P&S, they are both great digicams) has Lightroom already, and it is a great opportunity to get it then. So, if you do not have Lightroom, and want it, the D-Lux5 is cheaper then the Pana. A fact. I own the LX5 and the D-Lux5 (arrived today) and it feels different, not so "plastic" like the Pana feels (euh, the Pana is a good digicam, you can shoot the same shots, ...., nothing wrong with it at all). I just love the grip. And the final reason, it feels like a Leica, simple, the black body and the red dot on it, it also looks like a Leica. This was "love on first sight" for me. And yes, they are both born in Japan, but the Leica has the Leica-feeling, and I did not have Lightroom, so.... My new born girl Leica (born in Japan) is cheaper then my new born son (LX5-Tom), also born in Japan. And girls always looks better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 4, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 4, 2010 I own the LX5 and the D-Lux5 (arrived today) and it feels different, not so "plastic" like the Pana feels (euh, the Pana is a good digicam, you can shoot the same shots, ...., nothing wrong with it at all). I just love the grip. And the final reason, it feels like a Leica, simple, the black body and the red dot on it, it also looks like a Leica. If you could, since you own both cameras, take some shot using each camera at the exact same settings of the exact same scene. And then post them here. Using a tripod would held to make sure the cameras are taking the same image from the same spot. Thanks. PS. By the way the Panasonic has a metal case just like the Leica. The only difference is the grip on the Pana has a rubber, like, substance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semma Posted December 4, 2010 Share #15 Posted December 4, 2010 If you could, since you own both cameras, take some shot using each camera at the exact same settings of the exact same scene. And then post them here. Using a tripod would held to make sure the cameras are taking the same image from the same spot. Thanks. PS. By the way the Panasonic has a metal case just like the Leica. The only difference is the grip on the Pana has a rubber, like, substance. The Pana FEELS more plastic, I stated. Inside, all the same, you never heared me state something else, it's just which cam feels best for you, it is all about that. All the rest is just the same, for me the grip is better, and I needed Lightroom, so I am cheaper off with the Leica, and my daughter prefers the Pana, it "lays" better in her smaller hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearoido Posted December 5, 2010 Share #16 Posted December 5, 2010 Panasonic must also offer some editing software that should be adjusted out of the equation. The resale value is interesting - I wonder how many people would buy a three year old p&s camera. of any make. I have wondered for some time about the relative value of the resale of leica vs. panasonic, so I looked up B&H quotes on the LX3 vs. the d-lux4. I paid $399.99 for the LX3. It is now worth $150.00. Depreciation is thus $250.00 I would have paid $799.00 for the D-lux 4. It is now worth $374.0. Depreciation is thus $416.00. However you could be left with a copy of LR 3 worth $279.00 which changes depreciation to $137.00. In my case I already have lightroom so the LX3 made sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 5, 2010 Share #17 Posted December 5, 2010 I have wondered for some time about the relative value of the resale of leica vs. panasonic, so I looked up B&H quotes on the LX3 vs. the d-lux4. I paid $399.99 for the LX3. It is now worth $150.00. Depreciation is thus $250.00 I would have paid $799.00 for the D-lux 4. It is now worth $374.0. Depreciation is thus $416.00. However you could be left with a copy of LR 3 worth $279.00 which changes depreciation to $137.00. In my case I already have lightroom so the LX3 made sense. Well the DL4 did not come with Lightroom. It came with Phase One's Capture One software, just like the M8. Which to me is worth absolutely nothing and worth nothing to anyone buying a used DL4 because the license for the version that came with Leica cameras is NOT transferable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted December 6, 2010 Share #18 Posted December 6, 2010 Even though I agree with your reasoning, I think you should change the title of this item from: 4 Reasons Why You Should Get..... to: 4 Reasons Why I got ..... Nobody here can really tell others what to get - all they can do is make suggestions, and give reasons. I'm very happy with the one I got, but I'd probably be no less happy if I got the other one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted December 6, 2010 Share #19 Posted December 6, 2010 It's as much of an emotional decision as it is a financial one. I mean, would you rather have a camera bearing the logo of one of the oldest and most respected makers of photographic equipment and precision optics, or the logo of the same company that makes electric shavers, microwave ovens and DVD players? If someone were to lay a D-LUX 5 and LX5 out on a table and tell us we could take either one home free of charge, I would bet that most would go for the Red Dot. Gotta say, though, that including the hottest new $250-$300 professional image editing software goes a long way towards justifying the price increase (it was for me, at least). The irony is that Panasonic have been at the digital camera game much longer than Leica. And the first three digital cameras with the red dot we love were rebadged Fujis. At least when Kyocera rebadged their S5 and made the Contax TVS digital, they used the Contax titanium shell. As for whether a red dot makes it a Leica: I could put a three pointed star on the bonnet of a Toyota, and try to fool myself into thinking that I'm driving a Mercedes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semma Posted December 6, 2010 Share #20 Posted December 6, 2010 As for whether a red dot makes it a Leica: I could put a three pointed star on the bonnet of a Toyota, and try to fool myself into thinking that I'm driving a Mercedes. Just a stupid remark. You would look very stupid, because Toyota is better then Mercedes Why you do not put a VW badge on a SEAT, they do already. Never tought about the fact that a lot of people still buy a VW, and it is the same product like a SEAT, are all the VW-buyers wrong? For the rest, it is like with all the consumer products, Duracell does it, VW does it, why should Leica not coorporate with Pana? I stated this before, everybody makes his own choices, no need to attack others for chosing Pana or Leica, and leave the stupid comments away from these topics. All brands of cams use sensors made in japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, the bodies are made in 3rtdWorldCounties, so what the hell does it matter? Even looked inside the jeans you wear? I guess it is a brand, lets say 150 dollars, made in the same country where they produce a 10 dollar jeans, but there is the brand on it?????? At least one thing is sure, Pana and Leica works well together, they developed a wonderfull cam, the (D-)L(U)X5 The rest is all bullshit, and that smells very bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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