Checkland Posted September 29, 2010 Share #1 Posted September 29, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Been mulling over a new lens for a while now, when I bought my MP I bought with a summilux 50mm asph. After a while I wanted to add to that so plumped for the 35mm summarit, which I might add is a cracking lens for the money, having always been a 50mm guy,but I started loving the 35mm focal length but am craving for a little more speed. Started thinking whether to add a Nokton 1.2 or 'upgrade' to a summicron asph (love how this renders) obviously selling the summarit in the process? Unfortunately the summilux 35mm asph is out my budget without selling the 'lux 50 (not gonna happen) Just wondered what peoples opinions are if you were in this situation? PS - Was preferring to buy new but am open to suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joachim123 Posted September 29, 2010 Share #2 Posted September 29, 2010 Wait until you have the funds to buy the 35. I will be well worth the wait and the results are stunning!!! You will not regret spending the extra money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkland Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted September 29, 2010 I assume you mean the 'lux 35? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted September 29, 2010 Share #4 Posted September 29, 2010 The good news is GAS is not terminal normally. The bad news is it is as yet incurable, but they are working on gene therapy.... noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juergen Posted September 29, 2010 Share #5 Posted September 29, 2010 Wait until you have the funds to buy the 35. I will be well worth the wait and the results are stunning!!! You will not regret spending the extra money. I fully agree. Juergen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christer Posted September 30, 2010 Share #6 Posted September 30, 2010 think pictures, not lenses - and become happy stay with your 50 and avoid thinking what if. cheers, chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 30, 2010 Share #7 Posted September 30, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Been mulling over a new lens for a while now, when I bought my MP I bought with a summilux 50mm asph. After a while I wanted to add to that so plumped for the 35mm summarit, which I might add is a cracking lens for the money, having always been a 50mm guy,but I started loving the 35mm focal length but am craving for a little more speed. Started thinking whether to add a Nokton 1.2 or 'upgrade' to a summicron asph (love how this renders) obviously selling the summarit in the process? Unfortunately the summilux 35mm asph is out my budget without selling the 'lux 50 (not gonna happen) Just wondered what peoples opinions are if you were in this situation? PS - Was preferring to buy new but am open to suggestions. The Summicron is f2 against your Summarit's f2.5 - hardly much increase in speed, most film will absorb that difference anyway. If I were you I would visit a dealer, bringing your MP and Summarit, ask to shoot some comparison shots with the 'Cron, get the film processed and study the results carefully, then make your decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted September 30, 2010 Share #8 Posted September 30, 2010 Here's a different view. My favorite lens for use with my M2 & M8 is the 35 Lux pre- asph. It is a superb lens, with a unique signature. It's plenty sharp, but lacks the "clinical" look of the modern 35 Lux. Ask professionals and long time Leica shooters, this lens is a legend. It has gotten a bit more expensive in the US, but I still see the lens as available for under 1,400 US. I have owned & used several of these lens for many years. I'd post a question regarding it on the M8 & M9 Forum & see what people think. This Mandler designed lens takes it rightful place with his other designs, the Nocti, the 80 R Summilux & the 75 Summilux. It is one of the smallest, most compact & with one of the smallest 'throws for focusing. If you buy one, you will never again go anywhere without it. All the best. Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkland Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted October 1, 2010 Cheers for the opinions, Dont worry I do shoot a lot, that's why I only have 17 posts to my name. I also dont earn mega money so when I save for a lens I want to make sure I do my research properly and ask for opinions from others. I do love the summarit especially the size and performance of it, I love low light so maybe a summilux is the way to go, is that a specific version you were talking about Ben? Or is that what it's commonly known as? Only bought the summarit because didn't want to splash a load on a 35 when I'd never really used that focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted October 1, 2010 Share #10 Posted October 1, 2010 Lenses should appreciate in value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smb Posted October 1, 2010 Share #11 Posted October 1, 2010 Since you are using a film camera not digital...what about the 35mm Summicron v.III or v. IV? Both are less expensive than a new Summarit. Also, read I. Puts review of the 35mm Summarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkland Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted October 1, 2010 yeah I read Puts' review before I bought it and have to agree with what he says in that respect (minus the really technical bits, hard work chewing that over!) Won't be buying til next year now anyway, so hopefully the lust will have worn off and I can concentrate running the 'rit into the ground so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wblynch Posted October 2, 2010 Share #13 Posted October 2, 2010 Just an opinion.... Before buying another 35mm my advice would be to mount the one you have and don't take it off for a good while. You mentioned that you have never really used 35mm. So, get out and use it. Use it exclusively and then decide if it fits your style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MX5Bob Posted October 2, 2010 Share #14 Posted October 2, 2010 Here's a different view. My favorite lens for use with my M2 & M8 is the 35 Lux pre- asph. It is a superb lens, with a unique signature. It's plenty sharp, but lacks the "clinical" look of the modern 35 Lux. Ask professionals and long time Leica shooters, this lens is a legend. No part of the Leica kit I had when I entered photo-j school 30 years ago is missed more than that, all the 21mm/4 SA is close. The 'lux had the ability to make a picture shot under flat light glow. I have test pictures I took on a cloudy, snowy day of my old, dull and rusty '64 Mercury and the detail and tonal range are amazing. While the lighting that day was helped by the blanket of snow, overall it was pretty dull compared with sunny, summer conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkland Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted October 3, 2010 Anyone have a picture of the pre-asph 'lux in question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted October 12, 2010 Share #16 Posted October 12, 2010 http://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=34_36&products_id=2547 But reading the specs on this 1960s lens it has to be stopped down more than your current f2.5 before it gets sharp. Personally the 35F2 summicron asph has the best spec for no distortion and sharpness with high contrast plus it is a grand less and smaller than the summilux. Used are now 2x the price I payed 8 years ago. I use this 35mm for about 80% of my landscapes. Oddly I have 2 50mm for my other 20%, a summicron and the elmarit f2.8 collapsable (also a very sharp lens for so few elements) which is super light weight in black. Get a soft release from abrahams. That will give you an extra stop on shutter speed for slow shots making 1/15th usable hand held if you hold your breath. About a tenner. Then the F2 will let in the same light at the slower shutter speed as F1.4 at a stop faster and save you a Grand. Use Velvia 100 instead of 50, or Provia 400X instead of 100F, Kodak TMAX 400 instead of 100. I keep lusting after the 50 Lux asph but when I compare the specs to the current summicron I can see little difference for the typical f-stops I use F4-F11, apart from occasional flare in direct sunlight, the pull out hood works better than the older version with clip-on. So that's another grand saved. But I've not used the 50 lux asph on my camera. If I had I might think the same and never sell. Do consider the 35f2asph. Regards, Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted October 12, 2010 Share #17 Posted October 12, 2010 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/124927-i-love-my-m3.html See the 35f1.4 pre-asph on an M3 on the luv M3 thread page 1. The image of a scrappy looks good in the bright light (small f stop?F8/F11?) too. The convex front element of the pre-asph lux/crons do look nice but I feel as you started with 50 lux asph you'll want to keep the quality high? Regards, Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 12, 2010 Share #18 Posted October 12, 2010 Sean Reid recently published a new review of almost all 35mm lenses on the M9 - which will apply also to film. This might give you an useful overview with opportunities to compare: Welcome to ReidReviews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted October 13, 2010 Share #19 Posted October 13, 2010 The Summicron is f2 against your Summarit's f2.5 - hardly much increase in speed, most film will absorb that difference anyway. If I were you I would visit a dealer, bringing your MP and Summarit, ask to shoot some comparison shots with the 'Cron, get the film processed and study the results carefully, then make your decision. spot on. it's a bit pointless telling people to go read reviews, particularly ones you have to sign up and pay for. that's the whole point of this forum, to find out info from experience of users. not to get directions to go read somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted October 13, 2010 Share #20 Posted October 13, 2010 it's a bit pointless telling people to go read reviews, particularly ones you have to sign up and pay for. that's the whole point of this forum, to find out info from experience of users. not to get directions to go read somewhere else. The experience of many users (I'm one of them) is that Reid Reviews is a really good source of valuable information that you won't find on this forum, namely detailed, systematic, practical, comparative reviews. I wouldn't recommend it if I didn't think it well worth the money - especially to anyone who's planning to spend many times the subscription cost to buy a lens - and I presume UliWer feels the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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