bill Posted September 25, 2010 Share #121 Posted September 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) C'mon Jaap, don't let logic get in the way of a good rant Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted September 25, 2010 Share #122 Posted September 25, 2010 :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 25, 2010 Share #123 Posted September 25, 2010 Well, I can only say this: since there is nothing for me (and many of us), my month of wages for someone at the Leica factory is going to another manufacturer. My several thousand dollars is going to Canon. If that means lay-offs, I am terribly sorry for that person. I can't stay in business and "not" pay attention to my clients. I'm sorry, that's business. Well... that's an odd consideration... should I (still a very loyal Leica customer) feel uneasy for the fact that maybe there has been some layoff for I haven't bought a Noctilux, a S2, some new Summiluxes (and even - not yet a M9) ??? The 500 (or some less) people who wll buy that funny M9Ti will do what I did not, so better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 25, 2010 Share #124 Posted September 25, 2010 How can it mean layoffs if you are not buying something they don't produce anyway? I'm not sure what business you're in but if someone else makes something that my customers have been asking me for -and I continue not to service that client base- they might just move all of their business to my competition. ... and if I start to lose business to my competition, maybe I won't be able to afford having as many staff around? Is this clearer? I'm pretty sure business works the same way in Holland, Jaap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 25, 2010 Share #125 Posted September 25, 2010 Umm...Yes- but they have discontinued the R cameras - so there is nobody employed in that division. If you buy a Canon or Nikon there is nobody to lay off. The staff have been redeployed to building S2s, or X1s, or M9s. Nobody will start buying Canon digital rangefinders because there is no Leica 135 reflex camera. Leica is a niche producer. They will never have a full range of products. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 26, 2010 Share #126 Posted September 26, 2010 Sfage - Leica has hired additional workers since the end of the R system - the only people they "laid off" were the money-losing R customers. 18 months after the fact is a bit late to stomp out saying "I QUIT!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 27, 2010 Share #127 Posted September 27, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) >> Andy It is never too late, esp. in case you were brought up with the productrange and the philosophy of LEITZ which you hoped would be carried on by LEICA indefinately. Digital changed this all ... Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobh Posted September 27, 2010 Share #128 Posted September 27, 2010 Completely the opposite........ .......If you look at the complete lens lineup of Leica you won't find one weak lens. . Hmm, I beg to disagree. At least in the R-range they have offered a Japanese (zoom) buy-in in Leica disguise where the optical quality was, well, somewhat debatable. Jacobh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 27, 2010 Share #129 Posted September 27, 2010 When was the last time that Leica offered a "Minolta" zoom? 1985 maybe? That's a whole generation ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted September 27, 2010 Share #130 Posted September 27, 2010 Having just seen this L'Eclaireur x Gilles Ouaki x Leica X1 Digital Camera | Highsnobiety.com , I don't think we've seen the end of this year's 'designer specials' yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 27, 2010 Share #131 Posted September 27, 2010 The Ouaki Races edition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 27, 2010 Share #132 Posted September 27, 2010 Having just seen this L'Eclaireur x Gilles Ouaki x Leica X1 Digital Camera | Highsnobiety.com , I don't think we've seen the end of this year's 'designer specials' yet. If you look at the properties of the picture, Leica is spelled 'laica', which means secular, or lay in Spanish. Anti-snobbery, or the result of outsourcing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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