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Not sure if any of you have tried HDR with the M9 but the high resolution DNG file format gives stunning results. I've tinkered with a lot of the recommended programs with quite disappointing results until I found Oloneo - a french company and available in Beta form to try free... for now. Only slight problem is it won't show DNG thumbnails on the browser....

Produces fantastic photorealistic images with minimal need for post processing to correct the usual problems that HDR produces.

I can find very little reference on this forum to HDR.......

Am I going to turn my self into a leper by mentioning it...... ????

Maybe such manipulation is regarded as the work of the devil by leica folk.....

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My local church snapped this weekend and HDR'd:

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Yes, the M9 is superb for producing HDR type images. Especially noteworthy is the amount of shadow detail that can be recovered.

 

Thanks for pointing out Oloneo I'll give it a try. I tend not to do HDR but use Enfuse to merge multiply exposed images. I take things one step further and generate Enfused wide angle views by stitching together multiple Enfused images using GigaPano. I also use Focus Magic which uses convolution algorithms to overcome the sharpness loss you sometimes get when stacking/stitching multiple images.

 

You can generate beautiful sunlit woodland/forest scenes this way with a very natural perspective - the images don't look wide angle until you realise that the ground is at your feet and the tree tops are in the blue sky. This application is one instance when you wish the M9 buffer didn't take so long to clear and you could do automatic bracketed exposures in manual mode. I've just started using the same techniques for infra red with the M8 :D.

 

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I've been try out with Dynamic photo HDR, it's just simple, with 3 file auto bracket dng file and here the result......

 

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Excellent camera for HDR! Some recent examples:

 

Zenfolio | Sander van Hulsenbeek Photography | Panorama's Fernando de Noronha (Tripod/HDR Panorama)

Zenfolio | Sander van Hulsenbeek Photography | Olinda (Handheld)

Zenfolio | Sander van Hulsenbeek Photography | Olinda (Idem)

Zenfolio | Sander van Hulsenbeek Photography | Antique Rome (Idem)

 

All Photomatix Pro. The coming new version should be good, but also Nik Software ( Viveza i.a.) is coming with something interesting.

 

Good website, though some HDR's are too vivid to my taste: Stuck In Customs HDR Photography

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I see Craig and I are in the 'works of the devil' group judging from the replies to his post....

The church is is a tiny warwickshire village ... but to be honest they all look like this !

I'm interested in 'photo realistic' HDR rather than 'creative' HDR ..... ie combining several images to overcome the problem of detail loss in overexposed and underexposed parts of the image to achieve what is seen by the human eye.

I'm not sure this really constitutes 'post processing' manipulation in my book.

More akin to stitching panoramas etc.

Anyway, Oloneo seems to do this by default and produces very naturalistic images.

Most of the other software doesn't and produces garish or distorted results which you then struggle to correct...

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I've found the M9 great for HDR--seven photos in the bracket.

 

I use Photomatix, but am looking for to the new NIK edition, which as far as I can tell from the initial screen shots on their website, gives you more options in terms of realistic HDR or bent-out-of shape HDR. It apparently shows you thumbnails of different combinations so you can select something that is close to what you are trying to achieve.

 

As far as devil's work, nonsense. It's just another tool. I find that in shooting seven bracketed shots, sometimes I like a particular exposure better than when I apply HDR, but sometimes I like the HDR results better.

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I've found the M9 great for HDR--seven photos in the bracket.

 

I use Photomatix, but am looking for to the new NIK edition, which as far as I can tell from the initial screen shots on their website, gives you more options in terms of realistic HDR or bent-out-of shape HDR. It apparently shows you thumbnails of different combinations so you can select something that is close to what you are trying to achieve.

 

As far as devil's work, nonsense. It's just another tool. I find that in shooting seven bracketed shots, sometimes I like a particular exposure better than when I apply HDR, but sometimes I like the HDR results better.

 

Curious, when you say 'HDR-seven', do you mean 7 shots of the same image at different EVs? How do you get 7 from an M9? I thought the bracket only did 3? Thanks.

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You can change the M9 bracketing setting and sequence in the Menu. 7 is the maximum, but for HDR that is stretching things far, and also for handheld HDR you may 'catch' too much movement with so many pictures and thus cause the dreaded 'gosthing".

 

Photomatix Pro 4, just out in Beta (not very stable) will have a special setting to get rid of gosthing in post.

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You can change the M9 bracketing setting and sequence in the Menu. 7 is the maximum, but for HDR that is stretching things far, and also for handheld HDR you may 'catch' too much movement with so many pictures and thus cause the dreaded 'gosthing".

 

Photomatix Pro 4, just out in Beta (not very stable) will have a special setting to get rid of gosthing in post.

 

Thanks, I just found the bracketing option. :) By the way, what is a good +/- EV bracket?

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Photomatix Pro 4, just out in Beta (not very stable) will have a special setting to get rid of gosthing in post.

 

Already included in CS5's "Merge to HDR Pro".

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As long as all sensors have less dynamic range than film, HDR is sometimes better than dodging and burning, although there is great shadow detail in the DNGs.

I tried CS3, Photomatix Pro 3, PTGui, HDR Expose, and SNS-HDR so far.

 

I was not aware of Oleono, thanks for the link ! Will try that out, and Photomatix 4 since PM gave very good results in many cases (and performed well in aligning handheld bracket shots, as compared to SNS-HDR, CS3, PTGui, and was sometimes better than HDR expose)

 

HDR Digital Photography Software | HDR Merge & Edit | Photoshop, Lightroom, Aperture Plug-ins

HDR expose is my favourite now, but Oleono and the upcoming new software from Nik and Photomatix sounds interesting.

 

This was a stitch of three bracket series (5 exp.), stitched with PTGui, and merged with HDR Expose:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4889004400_d3212ede9f_o.jpg

 

In many cases I prefer kind of manual HDR with masking and layers:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4937971218_4df8e98f6c_o.jpg

 

A very important feature for me is a perfect alignment of handheld bracket shots. I am often too lazy to carry my tripod with M9 around :-)

 

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Very nice, beautiful shots!

 

Indeed, alignment of handheld is important, but for this sort of stuff you do need a tripod, if only not to miss an opportunity:

 

Zenfolio | Sander van Hulsenbeek Photography | Camogli (Click on picture for bigger version)

 

I would wait a little with PM4: not too exiting yet!

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