Fotomiguel Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share #21 Posted August 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Many replies! Sorry I was out It's true that I don't need any more lenses. But when I see the pictures shot with the new 35, I have to admit that it's a incredible lens. For me the 1.4 is not a matter of one more F-stop more but a important matter of the possibility of using this lens as a portrait lens giving me a nice out-focus background. I admit ( Jeff ) that I should buy the 35 cron long time ago. But the new 35 1.4 would give me more possibilities. Some of the links showed here, desmostrate this. The 28mm is a lens that I would never use for portraits. Too wide. But the 35 gives a high versatility and the 1.4 even more. It's no more a matter of low light since L3 allow so nice performance at high iso. The 1.4 give me more choices about the depth of field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tashley Posted August 4, 2010 Share #22 Posted August 4, 2010 Hi, I'm not sure whether you saw the threads I started about this lens? The first one I had was a dud so I sent it back. The second one seems about right BUT there are issues with it that I think people might want to be aware of before paying for one. My testing showed, like all the more detailed tests I have seen, that focus shift is so minimal as to be largely unimportant. However I did find that there are strange focus effects which mean, in short, that particularly at medium to medium far distances, the centre of the field of view is a little OOF whilst the rest of it is sharp - and if you pull focus a touch closer than the RF suggests, the centre of the frame become very sharp but the the rest goes a little OOF. This effect is worst at F2.8 through 5.6 and is extremely hard to describe because there appear to be shifts in DOF too and these are non-linear across the FOV. Something very complex is going on which I am not enough of an optical expert to analyse but I do know that I personally do not quite trust the lens yet: in practice these effects seem usually not to matter very much BUT I am just off on a shooting trip and I am sufficiently suspicious to be taking my 28 cron too. The reason I bought the 35 lux was that I imagined my perfect travel kit would be 18mm, 35mm and 90mm with the 35 lux doubling up as the 'fast' lens. My current 'fast lenses' are 50 lux and nocti, both slightly too long for my taste and a bit big for my ideal travel kit. But as it is, my mistrust means that until the 35 lux has had a really good workout on this trip (I will shoot a lot and check all frames at 100% for the first day or two) I won't use it for anything really important and will be taking the 50 lux and 28 cron along too. Admittedly this sounds picky but hey, I print large and I only pay a lot for lenses because I am picky. If you want to see examples of what I found, and just how odd it is, please see http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/132018-35-lux-m-m9-5.html#post1389654 I hope this helps. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSOP Posted August 4, 2010 Share #23 Posted August 4, 2010 How far is medium distances? Does it appear when shooting low-light indoors? Sadly I think 50mm is too long for my use. I have to stick with this new 35mm, it's still the best 35mm out there (for me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share #24 Posted August 4, 2010 Hi, I'm not sure whether you saw the threads I started about this lens? The first one I had was a dud so I sent it back. The second one seems about right BUT there are issues with it that I think people might want to be aware of before paying for one. My testing showed, like all the more detailed tests I have seen, that focus shift is so minimal as to be largely unimportant. However I did find that there are strange focus effects which mean, in short, that particularly at medium to medium far distances, the centre of the field of view is a little OOF whilst the rest of it is sharp - and if you pull focus a touch closer than the RF suggests, the centre of the frame become very sharp but the the rest goes a little OOF. This effect is worst at F2.8 through 5.6 and is extremely hard to describe because there appear to be shifts in DOF too and these are non-linear across the FOV. Something very complex is going on which I am not enough of an optical expert to analyse but I do know that I personally do not quite trust the lens yet: in practice these effects seem usually not to matter very much BUT I am just off on a shooting trip and I am sufficiently suspicious to be taking my 28 cron too. The reason I bought the 35 lux was that I imagined my perfect travel kit would be 18mm, 35mm and 90mm with the 35 lux doubling up as the 'fast' lens. My current 'fast lenses' are 50 lux and nocti, both slightly too long for my taste and a bit big for my ideal travel kit. But as it is, my mistrust means that until the 35 lux has had a really good workout on this trip (I will shoot a lot and check all frames at 100% for the first day or two) I won't use it for anything really important and will be taking the 50 lux and 28 cron along too. Admittedly this sounds picky but hey, I print large and I only pay a lot for lenses because I am picky. If you want to see examples of what I found, and just how odd it is, please see http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/132018-35-lux-m-m9-5.html#post1389654 I hope this helps. Tim Thanks for the info. I'm going to read it carefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted August 5, 2010 Share #25 Posted August 5, 2010 How far is medium distances? Does it appear when shooting low-light indoors?Sadly I think 50mm is too long for my use. I have to stick with this new 35mm, it's still the best 35mm out there (for me). I mean mainly 5 metres to 100 metres and as I say it's worse at f2.8 thru 5.6. I've given plenty if examples in my recent threads. Indoor low light is no different: the parameters are distance and f stop alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 5, 2010 Share #26 Posted August 5, 2010 http://blog.leica-camera.com/interview/chris-weeks/ This interview is accompanied by a number of pictures, some taken under very demanding circumstances. And Chris Weeks is not just Mr. Anybody. I have the lens, but have not been able to do a real test of it yet, as my M9 is in Solms with a cracked sensor. Maybe the twain shall meet next week. Ye olde manne from the Age of the 3.5cm Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSOP Posted August 5, 2010 Share #27 Posted August 5, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) All new 35 summilux photos are welcome, so please post more if you have some Still waiting for my own... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted August 5, 2010 Share #28 Posted August 5, 2010 Chris Weeks On The Latest 35mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH This interview is accompanied by a number of pictures, some taken under very demanding circumstances. And Chris Weeks is not just Mr. Anybody. I have the lens, but have not been able to do a real test of it yet, as my M9 is in Solms with a cracked sensor. Maybe the twain shall meet next week. Ye olde manne from the Age of the 3.5cm Elmar Hmmm. Weeks is not indeed just Mr. Anybody but I have two comments. 1) As I have observed hereabouts on a number of occasions, the weaknesses (and I believe there are notable weaknesses) with this lens become most apparent at medium distances and at F2.8 through F5.6, worst about F4. Weeks says he does most of his work wide open and is most impressed by the improvements in the lens's performance in the 0.7 to 1.5 metre range so he is less likely to have come across the issues that I, in my more general use of the lens, have seen. 2) A quick flick through his images shows that he rarely (like many a good photographer) places his subject centre frame. As I have observed, if that is your practice, you are less likely to observe the phenomena I have documented because they mostly affect the centre of the frame. As to his opinion on bokeh, well, he doesn't like the word itself so he and I may mean different things but in any event, with foliage at least, I think one would be hard-pressed to be more flattering than 'nervous' or 'busy' or 'hectic' or whatever. Additionally, it's fine to shoot the lens wide open, I do it a lot with good results and unafflicted by odd focus effects: but the truth is that in anything like strong daylight you'd have to use an ND filter to allow that. I have just started using a polariser for exactly that reason. It's a good and flare-resistant sunny day lens, but the CV Skopar is in some was better, being lower contrast, though unfortunately not as sharp to the corners. Best Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 6, 2010 Share #29 Posted August 6, 2010 Timothy, our respective attitudes seem to be summed up by that classical Hägar the Horrible strip: --Waiter, there's a fly in the soup! --Sir, that is a raisin. - - - - - --But it's flying! --Indeed, Sir. A flying raisin. It is interesting that you favor the C/V lens. I owned one. I dumped it. Bad decentering, creating one permanently unsharp corner. I was unlucky. You was lucky. My piggybank does not like to play Russian roulette. Therefore, no C/V lenses henceforth. The old man from the Age of the 3.5cm Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted August 6, 2010 Share #30 Posted August 6, 2010 Timothy, our respective attitudes seem to be summed up by that classical Hägar the Horrible strip: --Waiter, there's a fly in the soup! --Sir, that is a raisin. - - - - - --But it's flying! --Indeed, Sir. A flying raisin. It is interesting that you favor the C/V lens. I owned one. I dumped it. Bad decentering, creating one permanently unsharp corner. I was unlucky. You was lucky. My piggybank does not like to play Russian roulette. Therefore, no C/V lenses henceforth. The old man from the Age of the 3.5cm Elmar I like the Hagar joke but I must observe that I am on my second new generation 35 lux, the first one arrived badly out of whack. I don't like Russian roulette either but it seems that at even the most exclusive casino in town they are all too likely to give you a gun rather than a pile of chips. Having said that, my first cv skopar was like yours and went back and the current one was great on the M8 but on the M9 it fails to convince in the corners... I'm using the 35 lux a lot at the moment and really liking it. I just think one needs to know one's gear's foibles.. I'd never use it at 20 metres and f4 for a shot with central detail that mattered. It just doesn't 'do' that kind of shot well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted August 6, 2010 Share #31 Posted August 6, 2010 Timothy, I am really going to put it through the wringer when the Gnomes of Solms return from their summer holiday (in a nice mine shaft in the Harz, I presume) and return my M9 to me. Your cryptic remarks about 20 meters at f:4 are really intriguing. The old man, scratching his head with his pickaxe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted August 6, 2010 Share #32 Posted August 6, 2010 Timothy, I am really going to put it through the wringer when the Gnomes of Solms return from their summer holiday (in a nice mine shaft in the Harz, I presume) and return my M9 to me. Your cryptic remarks about 20 meters at f:4 are really intriguing. The old man, scratching his head with his pickaxe Lars. scratch no more - there's no mystery: it's just that at medium distances and open but not wide open apertures, the lens does not produce sharp focus on the central area of the image (if that's where focus was chosen); rather, it will get very sharp if you pull focus forward a touch but that will throw the rest of the frame out a bit. I've posted several examples in other threads... so just watch out for it: it can spoil a shot for A3 sized printing and even smaller if you're picky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted August 7, 2010 Share #33 Posted August 7, 2010 I have another thread in the customer forum where I've linked to a whole load of bokeh shots, if anyone's interested - the shots are trying to show bokeh at a range of subject distances and both in front of and behind the subject... http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/134496-new-35-lux-m9-bokeh-2-a.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclamb Posted August 8, 2010 Share #34 Posted August 8, 2010 Due to a mix up I didn't get my new 35 Lux when the first few came into the dealer. However, great people that they are, they have allowed me to take the sample lens away to use during my holiday. I have to say this is a very very sharp lens wide open and I can't wait to get my own. I shall have my Lux trio (24/35/50) and the 75/2 for the trip. In response to the OP's request for pictures with this lens, here is the first picture I took with the 35 Lux at 1.4: Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRJR Posted August 8, 2010 Share #35 Posted August 8, 2010 Due to a mix up I didn't get my new 35 Lux when the first few came into the dealer. However, great people that they are, they have allowed me to take the sample lens away to use during my holiday. I have to say this is a very very sharp lens wide open and I can't wait to get my own. I shall have my Lux trio (24/35/50) and the 75/2 for the trip. In response to the OP's request for pictures with this lens, here is the first picture I took with the 35 Lux at 1.4: Simon Thanks, nice photo; and, I am very eager to get the new (revised) Leica 35mm Summilux-m lens that I've had on pre-order, since the day it was announced by Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSOP Posted August 15, 2010 Share #36 Posted August 15, 2010 Review with images The Visual Science Lab / Kirk Tuck: An irreverent, emotional and nostalgic review of the Leica M9 and the latest 35mm Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted August 16, 2010 Share #37 Posted August 16, 2010 Thanks. I really enjoyed the review and like the look of the blog, which I have not come across before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mah Posted July 9, 2011 Share #38 Posted July 9, 2011 M9+ new 35mm f1.4 shot: Damascus | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 9, 2011 Share #39 Posted July 9, 2011 This first is actually from half a dozen frames stitched together. Each exposure was for two seconds. A pretty fair example of accuracy of rendering point light sources and edges, I think. Surfers night Pano photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com And one in daylight Surfers day Pano photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com street grab It's free photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com This one processed for a softer atmosphere For her personal project on young women's self images photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Some more soft toned subject and colur Lamington National Park dusk photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted July 9, 2011 Share #40 Posted July 9, 2011 Here's a shot with the new 35mm Summilux 1.4 FLE on an M9 shot straight into the sun. I own the 28mm Summicron ASPH, the 35mm Summilux ASPH, the 50mm Summilux ASPH and the 90mm Elmarit. My most used lens (by far) is the 50mm but my 35mm gets more use than my 28mm. I guess it all comes down to how and what you shoot! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/127598-looking-for-m9-new-leica-35mm-f14-images/?do=findComment&comment=1729283'>More sharing options...
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