mikel Posted January 7, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) My concern is that external film processing and scanning results in compromises on picture quality, something I definitely want to avoid. Â Thanks in advance for any advice. Â Hi Ecaton, how big will your prints be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 Hi mikel, Take a look here Starting with an M4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ecaton Posted January 7, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted January 7, 2007 Hi Ecaton, how big will your prints be? Â The "regular" larger ones 8x10 and 10x15. I prefer not to print to many small size photos like 4x6 or 5x7 but rather look at average shots on-screen. Rarely would there be larger prints like 20x16 or even 30x20, which require external printing anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnguyen Posted January 10, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted January 10, 2007 Jill - I would start with a used M6 that way you get a builtin meter to use with . A used M6 will go for around $1000 USD and and used 50mm f2 cron $600. An M4 is a beautiful camera to look at but not very practical to use. Say if you want to add an MR meter to it you won't have room for an external viewfinder in case you decide to shoot wide. Also m6 will have 6 frame lines vs M4 4 frame lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted January 10, 2007 Share #24  Posted January 10, 2007 Jill - I would start with a used M6 that way you get a builtin meter to use with . A used M6 will go for around $1000 USD and and used 50mm f2 cron $600. An M4 is a beautiful camera to look at but not very practical to use. Say if you want to add an MR meter to it you won't have room for an external viewfinder in case you decide to shoot wide. Also m6 will have 6 frame lines vs M4 4 frame lines.  Everything you say about the M6, Charles, could be said about the M5, too! The add plums to the M5 are its size and hand-built construction with high quality components...the last of the Ms built in Wetzlar! Another good thing is that M5 has no red dotty logo on it  good cheer,  Thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 10, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted January 10, 2007 I recently bought an M6 "classic" and love it. I am looking for a 35/2 IV, but that is a bit more expensive than the 50 Cron, if I can even find one. I personally thought about it for a long time, and looked at various cameras at my dealer (he has the whole line in stock, including some interesting rarities), and eventually decided that the light meter built into the M6 made this camera the lower end cut-off for me. I don't understand the comments about the M6 having poor build quality. It may be that earlier cameras were built better in some way, but this camera is rock-solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted January 10, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted January 10, 2007 An M4 is a beautiful camera to look at but not very practical to use. Â Hi Charles, I might have to respectfully disagree with you here. While most of the photos I take are not very interesting, it's not due to my M4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCT Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share #27 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Results are in and lol, I probably could have predicted this --- but I ended up with the one model that I predicted I would avoid. Â End result: Â 1.M3 body in pretty good shape (son selling all father's gear), SN 107xxxx, works well, a couple of minor dings and missing vulcanite here and there-- viewfinder is very bright and clear. Price = $600 Â 2. Summicron 50mm f/2 DR with eyes, 1962 vintage from a guy on Photo.net who has been actively using it also in good shape. Price = $425 Â So, I got what looks like a good entry setup for just over $1000 and there's room in the budget for a CLA if necessary or a Luigi half-case if not . Â As soon as I get through my grant deadline I'll try to post a pic. Â It came down to this vs an M6, but I really prefer the 50mm "view" and I'm starting to get into a handheld meter "groove" -- not to mention I really love fully mechanical cameras. Â Thanks to all--- and hey! I even checked out a barnack, very neat. Â JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 11, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Great news Jill! Â Post some pictures when you're able. Â Thanks. Â Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted January 11, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted January 11, 2007 Congratulation Jil! Â A Leica (M) is like a dog: It pulls you out disregarding weather etc. just to follow the direction the lens is pointing to... Â Regards Bernd (a rooky in terms of Ms from Dec. 9th 06) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted January 12, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted January 12, 2007 Great choice Jill, The Cron dual range is a fantastic lens. Now keep your eye out for a Cron 35 (8 elements) with eyes. Not as sharp as the later, let alone the ASPH, but has it's own unique Leica look. Â Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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